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A Weak Economy Or Inadequately Trained Workers: What’s To Blame For Joblessness?

Emilie Ritter Saunders / StateImpact Idaho

Western States CAT, which sells and repairs Caterpillar equipment, has established its own training program to make sure it has enough qualified workers.

For years now, labor economists and many of us who have felt the recession’s effects have puzzled over the U.S. jobless rate.  When will it come down, and why hasn’t it fallen more already?  One explanation is the so-called skills gap.  That’s the idea that employers are ready to hire, but they’re having a hard time finding workers with the training to meet their needs.

It’s an argument that has generated quite a few counterarguments.  Are there actually not enough machinists or welders out there?  Or are employers simply holding out until they find the perfect employee, someone they won’t have to train and bring up to speed?  Are the wages they’re offering too low to attract skilled job seekers? 

That discussion plays out in two pieces in today’s Wall Street Journal.  One article describes the plight of small businesses struggling to find qualified workers.  A WSJ survey of small-business leaders turned up this result:

About 31% of 811 small-business owners and chief executives said they had unfilled job openings in July because they couldn’t identify applicants with the right skills or experience… – The Wall Street Journal

An even higher percentage of surveyed manufacturing companies said they couldn’t find workers with the skills to match their needs.  What the piece can’t offer is a definitive view of whether or not there is truly a skills gap.

Enter another WSJ piece published today.  This one sums up the recent findings of a Federal Reserve Bank of San Francisco economist.  Most people who get jobs today are switching industries to do so, the economist’s working paper says.  That undermines the idea that a mismatch between workers’ skills and employers’ needs is to blame for the persistently high unemployment rate.

The research lends support to the view that much of today’s unemployment reflects inadequate demand in the economy, and thus susceptible to government stimulus, rather than a mismatch between the skills of unemployed workers and the needs of employers that will persist. – The Wall Street Journal

StateImpact recently reported on a training program here in Idaho that readies workers for “middle-skills” jobs.  Last month, a Georgetown University report found that vocational certificates have greater value in Idaho than in many other states.  It also found that relatively few Idahoans have that vocational training.

Comments

  • Derlan

    3 of the people I know who have been unemployed or underemployed have advanced engineering degrees, but the news media keeps saying we need more students majoring in engineering?
    Why then should someone with a degree in electrical engineering be working as a bartender?

    • Russelheim62

      Maybe the issue is that they didn’t ahve the right engineering major? My room mate at PSU had a chemical engineering major and he has had numerous job offers ; while I know of individuals with other engineering backgrounds who were laid off and can’t get a job

  • http://www.facebook.com/paul.r.metivier Paul R Metivier

    Hard not to have a skills gap when employers want degrees to get jobs as janitors, or machine operators withat least ten years experience in that job. So, how are all these illegals geting jobs? Not having to worry about minimum wage and health benifits seem to be working for them. What is the jobless rate for illegals?

  • Mikid54

    Outsourcing, automation, and an up-coming election that corporations want to win have played a major part in the slow jobs growth in the US.

    If you were a corporation, would you employ workers who you can leave un-employed, angry and more apt to vote for the current sitting president whom you can blame the unemployment on ???

    Just sayin’ ….

  • Russelheim

    From: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    To: fsaombudsmanoffice@ed.gov
    Subject: RE:
    Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 15:17:04 -0400
    Oh! Mr. Bartkowski, I was told that Sallie mae turned me down for a deferment on 09/29/1992 was a result of Sallie Mae denying me a deferment because I was too late in my application for a deferment? That can’t be true because PHEAa had bought my loans from Sallie Mae in July, 1992 so Sallie Mae didn’t have the authority to grant me a deferment- even though I had applied for the deferment well before the beginning of the semester so their turning me down had notheing to do with my loans. Since they still had me in deferment until 02/93, They either had given me a deferment previous to their sale of my loans in July, 1992; or they honored the USDE policy and granted me an in-school deferment as a full-time student as guaranteed deferment!——————————————————————————–
    From: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    To: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    Subject: RE:
    Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 16:24:00 -0400——————————————————————————–
    From: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    To: fsaombudsmanoffice@ed.gov
    Subject: RE:
    Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 15:47:13 -040

    Mr. Bartkowski: I am still confused as to why you would close my records and make them inactive? The letters seem to be verifiable as PHEAA’s records place me in default because I supposedly never contacted Sallie Mae for a deferment ( or received any deferments from Sallie Mae?). Ms. Spadoni morphed my default into my never having contacted the owner of the loans for a deferment ( which is what Diane Pernetti and Jesse Lawyer stated, but hat was in reference to my Sallie Mae records and that was in reference to PHEAA’s not having any record of my being in school after 12/90 because of their non-communication policy). You have records of my not only having deferments on my GSL loans after 12/90 but the Sallie Mae letter from Loraine Heydt had me not going into default until 02/93, but Sallie Mae didn’t have the authority to place me into default at that time because PHEAA owned my loans and Sallie Mae had nothing to do with my loans after 07/92 when PHEAA bought my loans from Sallie Mae! Since any deferments would have gone into effect the beginning of the semester, why would I have been placed into default in the middle of the semester with my defements being denied? Which deferment
    was denied? A deferment from my application when I sent my paperwork in at he beginning of the spring semester; my deferment that was guaranteed by USDE policy that as a full-time student at an accredited institution and not in default is guaranteed a deferment as long as he/she is in school; or possibly another deferment that i might have applied for when I received the letter from Sallie Mae on 07/06/92 which was mentioned by Ann Behan in her letter that verified my having a deferment ( the letter from Sallie Mae did mention that I had to contact them immediately to receive a deferment for that semester! And the letter on 09/29/92 only mentioned one deferment was denied since deferments can not overlap this denial would be expected. And since I was not in default when the letter was posted, my policy defement would not have been denied-that is unless PHEAA didn’t know I wasn’t in school, and they didn’t!
    My question though is about the policy issues that are addressed in my questions as Mr. William Ryan of the USDE wrote to me and stated that the USDE gives some latitude to the loan guaranty agencies about handling of the loans but the USDE has to enforce policy issues! The policy issues being the guaranty of a student who is a full-time student at an accredited institution being guaranteed a defement; the borrower being elgible for a forbearance if the payments are over 20% of income ( I was emloyed as a cashier at a Uni-Mart while a full-time student so my income was much less than the 20% ceiling caused by no exit meeting by PHEAA and that Sallie Mae had me in defement because I was a student with a defement. ( The exit meeting is required by USDE policy); also required is a repayment schedule prior to repayment and default, but my repayment began in 07/91 and I was in deferment in 07/91 so my reapyment was postponed! When did I go back into repayment, or did I? Salli Mae’s phone records stated that I wasn’t in repayment as of 04/92, and I was still in deferment as of 05/25/92 ( kind of kills my 180 days out of deferment on 10/02/92 as stated by PHEAA in the letter dated 09/29/92!- but that was because of PHEAA’s non-communication policy?). And if I never entered repayment when did I go into default? If I was in deferment as stated by Sallie Mae, when did I go into default? If I actually had deferments and I was placed into default because I never applied to Sallie Mae for a deferment or if I was placed into default because I never applied for a deferment as stated by Diane Spadoni in the letter to CTI, shouldn’t I have had another default hearing by your standards-or the law’s standards? If I was elgible for a forbearance because of my earnings vs. payment issue, why was I placed into default vs. a forbearance in the middle of the semester- isn’t that a policy issue? I’m told by the USDE I am responsible for obeying the contract I signed concerning the student loans, but isn’t the USDE also responsible for following up on their end of the contract also——————————————————————————–
    From: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    To: askdoj@usdoj.gov
    Subject: RE:
    Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:45:20 -0400
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    From: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    To: fsaombudsmanoffice@ed.gov
    Subject: RE:
    Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 13:41:23 -0400
    Mr Bartkowski: You previously promised me USDE records addressing my default but you never followed through?( here is a copy of one of my replies to your offer.)? I am confused that at one time you desired to co-operate withe my requests, but then decided not to? Could is be due to the USDE response to the CTI inquiry where the USDE sent CTI five letters from Diane Spadoni which stated that I never received a deferment on my student loans- that there is no evidence that the applications were ever received; on time; in the proper format; etc. but failed to include the letter from Diane Spadoni from 01/20/2005 to Congressman Todd Platts which verified USDE knowledge of my having deferments, or any of the other myriad of letters in your records that also verified USDE knowledge of my deferments- including other USDE administrators letters that verified both PHEAA and USDE knowledge of my having deferments on my student loans. Don’t these letters contradict the reason that I was placed into default and the letters that USDE sent to CTI? And why weren’t htese letters with this same information sent to COngressman Pat Toomey when the USDE sent their reply to Mr. Toomey’s inquiry? Isn’t there something wrong here?
    I’m confused? Is this why my records were closed and my account inactive?

    From: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    To: fsaombudsmanoffice@ed.gov
    Subject: FW: Ms Demass
    Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:21:42 -0500

    A couple of weeks ago Mr. Bartkowski stated that he would forward a copy of USDE records so that I was aware of tthe information that was available to the USDE when they did their investigations ( an investigation requires an attempt to discover information which means communication with all people involved- not just reviewing available information and making a decision that is convenient 18 U.S.C. 1001 !)? I haven’t received any correspondece yet; also I requested a list of the parties that the USDE ahd done revews for so that I can contact them and send them information that you never addressed during your reviews(?). Thank you for your communications and I will expect the information in the near future?!

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    From: FSAOmbudsmanOffice@ed.gov
    To: russelheim62@hotmail.com
    Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2012 05:58:36 -0500
    Subject: RE:

    Mr. Heim:

  • Ron Massie

    If these employers were really interested in getting qualified employees-why don’t they do as
    Caterpillar equipment, has done and establish its own training program to make sure it has enough qualified workers-I really don’t understand employers saying this and not taking the time to train potential employee’s in the skills required? Is this concept so had to understand…

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Franklin-Bacon/1403711134 Franklin Bacon

    Unlike after the previous Great Depression, businesses and government are not now willing to train for what they need. Many degrees have been earned in other fields but this leaves potential workers with huge debt and little ability to pay for more training in another.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Franklin-Bacon/1403711134 Franklin Bacon

    It costs them money they are unwilling to invest in the domestic market of workers.

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