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Why Police Support Common Core Standards In Florida

Chief Ian Moffett of Miami-Dade County Public Schools supports the state's new standards.

Sammy Mack / StateImpact Florida

Chief Ian Moffett of Miami-Dade County Public Schools supports the state's new standards.

Florida’s Common Core standards have a new group of supporters: law enforcement.

The national anti-crime group Fight Crime: Invest in Kids released a position paper in favor of Florida’s new standards for English language arts and math. The group argues that assessments and higher standards can prevent crime.

Here’s the paper’s summary of the connection:

“Florida’s law enforcement leaders see the Florida Standards as integral to the effort to ensure that all students are college- and career- ready, and essential if we are going to successfully prevent future crime. What works to help all our young people be employable and succeed will also work to bring down crime. That is why we in law enforcement support the Florida Standards and aligned assessments.”

You can hear more from the organization and law enforcement here:

Comments

  • Vlad Lenin

    The statists are coming out in force to support the dumbing down of Amerika! Common core will make people they can control…

  • DeannaRae

    So the police unions support another socialist agenda. What’s new about that? I’d like to hear from a police officer who tries to help his/her child with a math assignment instead of from “law enforcement leaders”.

  • Mary Niemeyer

    Maybe the police department needs to watch the Common Core documentary to fully understand the implications:

    http://commoncoremovie.com/
    Unfortunately, there is no Common Core magic to solve the problem of crime without first solving the issue of poverty. Teachers face the reality every day that there’s just no magic.

    • ThomasBO

      Maybe you should actually read the Common Core Standards yourself rather than a third party spin http://www.corestandards.org/

      • Carla Johnson

        I’m a third grade teacher. The Common Core aligned Math textbook is absolutely unteachable. The Common Core benchmarks themselves still not as good as the Sunshine State standards, which were really not that great either.

  • bamboolady

    Maybe law inforcement should take a closer look at the common core curriculum materials. Common core is doing just the opposite. It is dumbing down our students.

    • ThomasBO

      There are NO CC curriculum materials, FYI.

      • NYGal80

        Just tests that determine curriculum.

    • kerijay

      They should’ve named it Common Control.

  • Carlos Gonzalez

    Special interest. Political jockeying. They [law enforcement] haven’t a clue about Common Core.

    • Carla Johnson

      They’re all welcome to come into my classroom and teach it for a day and see what it’s all about.

  • EdChris

    The Standards were informed by the best education practices in the
    country, the highest international standards and evidence and expertise about
    educational outcomes. We need college- and career-ready standards because even
    in high‐performing states,
    students are graduating and passing all the required tests and still require
    remediation in their post-secondary work. See why teachers,
    educatiors and other leaders believe it’s time for higher standards for America’s students: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AF3fCvQPwco
    and read the standards here: http://www.corestandards.org/read-the-standards/

    • Carla Johnson

      You’re probably on the Gate Foundation payroll! Pretty much anyone who is pro-Common Core, either knows nothing about it, or is receiving money that can be traced to the Gate Foundation or any other organization that has a financial stake in it.

      • Carla Johnson

        I don’t think Jeb Bush’s grin is shit eating enough in that video!

      • holly1221

        I think that’s a really attacking stance. Though change can be difficult, I think it’s important to keep the dialogue open to all people. I have been teaching ELA at the graduate level for the last 15 years, and (I can only speak for the ELA) Chris is right about the changes being grounded in best practice. The education profession has enough problems without attacking itself from within.

        • Carla Johnson

          I’m speaking about the math. I’m a third grade teacher and the CC$$ aligned Go Math textbook we’re using in our district is absolutely unteachable. All I see as a consequence of CC$$ are the most vulnerable students this is supposed to be helping out getting frustrated and dropping out, and the testing and publishing companies such as Pearson getting richer.

        • Carla Johnson

          holly1221, you’re also welcome to come into my classroom and see how all of this CC$$ is really working. Are you an actual K-12 teacher? The third grade ELA is not that different except for the writing prompts, which we were doing anyway with the old Sunshine State standards.

          • holly1221

            You are welcome to come to my classroom to see it working (8th grade ELA and the HST in science). If you could cite a standard that encouraged kids to get a wrong answer, you might be more credible. (And I certainly hope my doctors know more problem solving than computation!)

          • Carla Johnson

            The CC$$ math is a disaster. I still don’t believe any K-12 teacher is for the Common Core. You’re obviously on the payroll of somebody or posing as a K-12 teacher. Well, I hope you never get in a life or death situation and your doctor adds up the wrong dosage because he/she learned CC$$ math. Or the pilot of the plane your flying on crashes because the pilot used a CC$$ method to add of fuel, you’d certainly crash. This whole thing is a disaster.

          • holly1221

            There are A LOT of teachers I know in support of Common Core. Many, though, are afraid of the vocal minority (you) out of fear of the very personal attacks that ensue. If you are teaching third graders, I would hope you’d be more aware of this kind of bullying. Sad.

          • Carla Johnson

            I was bullied by my administration for being the first to speak out and being truthful about how bad the CC$$ math is. It wasn’t easy back in October when I was the only one in my school brave enough to speak up and say how bad these math methods and concepts are. I truthfully haven’t met a teacher who doesn’t think the CC$$ math is a complete disaster. We’re all speaking up about it. NCLB was a constant migraine headache with frequent panic attacks. CC$$ is a cancer that needs to be cut out! You ought to be ashamed of yourself for not doing what’s right for your students and fellow teachers and being a “Common Core Common Whore.” Then again, I don’t believe you’re a real teacher. You probably work for Pearson or the Gates Foundation.

          • holly1221

            You have called a person you don’t even know a “whore” because they don’t agree with you. And I am the one who should be ashamed? You are a great example of the ignorance of this opposition and the worst of our profession.

          • Carla Johnson

            So what should I do to get my district and school administration to get rid of the Go Math series, and let me choose what materials I want to teach?

      • holly1221

        I am pro-Common Core. I have been studying it and the practices that go with it for the past four years, so I definitely don’t “know nothing about it.” I am definitely not on anyone’s payroll, just a teacher excited about its potential for all students to get a rigorous and engaging education.

    • Carla Johnson

      Common Core’s Common Whores!

      • holly1221

        Really? In a discussion? This is a great example of why we DO need new standards. People should be able to have an educated discussion without attack and name calling. Totally inappropriate. Hiding behind a computer and slinging personal insults on an issue in education is a bit ironic, don’t you think?

  • holly1221

    Very well thought out position. I have been implementing Common Core aligned curriculum for this last school year. The gains I have seen from my students and the turn arounds among struggling students have been like nothing I have experienced in my over 20 years in education. The standards are built on best practice and have brought about exceptional results for my students.

    • Carla Johnson

      What grade are you teaching? What kind of training did you get before implementing it in your classroom. Are you teaching math? Just curious because I find the third grade math impossible to teach and not developmentally appropriate to the students’ level. What are you doing in your classroom that just about every other teacher I know who is working hard to make this work is finding the Common Core unteachable.

      • holly1221

        I teach 8th grade ELA. Much of what I am doing builds on best practice ELA, but have supplemented my knowledge with Fisher and Frey, Marzano, Calkins, and the like. My district has given us training for the last two years. I have a friend teaching math in another district, and though she admits it is a philosophical shift, she loves it. Not sure what to say, but I do think it is working for many (I teach also at the graduate level, and have worked with teachers in many school districts who are very excited). Did you get training? I do think that is important. As with any change in any profession, it is critical.

        • Carla Johnson

          You’d be singing a different tune if you were a 3rd grade elementary teacher. I got the Common Core aligned math textbook teachers edition only 3 days before the first day of school and only 1 afternoon of training. The math concepts and methods I have to teach are completely foreign. It’s absolutely unteachable. My third graders don’t do carrying or borrowing, or learn their multiplication tables or learn long division, instead they learn estimating before they even know how to a simple math problem and what a proper answer looks like. I’m actually so embarrassed by the math homework that I’m sending home, that I feel like writing an apology to all my students’ parents and explaining to them that this Common Core aligned textbook does not represent my professional opinion as teacher of effective methods to teach math.
          Our country has sent astronauts to the Moon and
          rovers to Mars. Those rocket scientist learned adding and subtracting,
          carrying and borrowing, and multiplying and dividing when they were in
          the third grade. So why are the Common Core Standards drastically
          changing the methods and math concepts we’re teaching our third graders.
          We know what works, shouldn’t we stick to it?

          • holly1221

            That’s too bad. Hopefully you understand that there is a difference between standards and a curriculum. Common Core are only standards. I did teach elementary math for years. I do not see anything in the standards that are inappropriate. It sounds like the shift you are referring to is constructivist, which, in elementary might look different than traditional (though computation IS heavily emphasized in the CCSS), but this shift is critical to building towards higher math. Our world has changed, and our job in education is to change to make sure we are meeting the demands of it. Everyone deserves a rigorous education.

          • Carla Johnson

            Yes, I understand the whole modern shift, but math is math. 2×2 will always equal 4. Common core doesn’t seem to see that logic, they teach very complicated ways to get wrong answers, instead of teaching very simple and understandable methods to get right answers. When my life depends on it. Let’s say, it a nurse or doctor adding up the dosage of medication I need in an emergency. I hope they know the quickest way to the right answer instead of the most complicated way to the wrong answer. I also hope my accountant doing my taxes knows how to get the right amount, or the waitress adding up the bill at a restaurant can get it right. So we need to look at the difference between math analysis and being able to functionally use math. Math is such an important subject and what CC$$ is doing to it will only put our country more behind and harm our society.

          • Carla Johnson

            Then why am I mandated by my school district to use the aligned math textbook which has completely foreign concepts and methods to teach math? It teaches complicated ways to get wrong answers, instead of simple ways to get it right. So yes, the first time I actually saw the CC$$ benchmarks, I didn’t think they were that much different from the Sunshine State Standards. So why am I required to use the unteachable methods in the math textbook. If they’re just standards and benchmarks should I be able to teach addition/subtraction with carrying and borrowing. If I feel that memorizing times tables frees a student from having to complicated computations or counting manipulatives each time, shouldn’t I be able to put a benchmark with that? With the Sunshine Sate Standards I was able to make up my own materials and put benchmarks with them to show I was following the curriculum. With Common Core, I can’t. I have to follow the textbook word for word.

          • holly1221

            Obviously, you have not read the Common Core standards or occompanying documents. Nowhere is any of the documents would it encourage you to “follow the textbook word-for-word” in fact, it would DISCOURAGE that kind of teaching

  • Carla Johnson

    As a teacher, I believe the Common Core will do just the opposite. Students will only become frustrated and drop and resort to a life a crime. Any law enforcement official who supports the Common Core is welcome to come into my classroom and teach it for a day and see what they think afterwards. My suspicion is that these Florida law enforcement organizations, that are pro-Common Core, are receiving grants or funding that can be traced to the Gates Foundation or the Walton Family Foundation or any other organization that has a stake in the Common Core.

  • Carla Johnson

    Florida’s law enforcement leaders are Common Core’s Common Whores. They were probably paid by the Gates foundation and Jeb Bush.

    • Kevin Kelly

      Funding

      Fight Crime: Invest In Kids is supported by tax-deductible
      contributions from foundations, individuals, and corporations. Fight
      Crime: Invest In Kids receives no funds from federal, state, or local
      governments. Major funding is provided by: The California Endowment, The
      California Wellness Foundation, The Annie E. Casey Foundation, Bill
      & Melinda Gates Foundation, The Grable Foundation, Grand Victoria
      Foundation, The George Gund Foundation, The Irving Harris Foundation,
      The Heinz Endowments, The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation, W.K.
      Kellogg Foundation, McCormick Foundation, Motorola Solutions Foundation,
      The New York Community Trust, The David and Lucile Packard Foundation,
      William Penn Foundation, The Pew Charitable Trusts, Pritzker Early
      Childhood Foundation, and Rauch Foundation.

      • Carla Johnson

        Yep! Common Whores!

  • Kevin Kelly

    Another Gates led addition to the propaganda. EVERY proponent of common core I have seen has Gates Foundation money somewhere behind them.

  • NYGal80

    This is going to sound very “conspiracy theory” but if the citizens of the US are sitting by and watching the corporate take over of our schools, could the privatization of the police be very far behind?

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