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Court permanently bars activist from gas sites [updated]

Anti-fracking activist Vera Scroggins says she wants to appeal a court ruling that permanently bars her from Cabot Oil & Gas sites.

Marie Cusick/ StateImpact Pennsylvania

Anti-fracking activist Vera Scroggins says she wants to appeal a court ruling that permanently bars her from Cabot Oil & Gas sites.

A Susquehanna County judge has ruled that 63-year-old anti-fracking activist Vera Scroggins will be permanently barred from setting foot on Cabot Oil & Gas sites.*

Scroggins has been a thorn in the company’s side for years. She hosts a lot of citizen gas tours around Susquehanna County where Cabot has most of its operations. The company says she has repeatedly trespassed on its property and poses a safety risk.

“I’d like to appeal it,” Scroggins says of the ruling. “I consider it an unfair decision that is further restricting me– to keep me from exposing Cabot and the gas industry.”

Cabot spokesman George Stark says the company is pleased with the outcome.

“We hope that Ms. Scroggins is now able to respect the judge’s parameters, which have been reestablished unequivocally,” he wrote in an email. “We are hopeful that this finally marks an end to these events.”

The feud made international news earlier this year when Cabot got a sweeping (yet temporary) court injunction against her– effectively barring her from nearly half the county. In March the order was revised to be much less restrictive. It blocked her from Cabot sites and required she maintain a 100 foot buffer zone. However, that revised order was still temporary and the two sides were negotiating a permanent deal about where she can and can’t go.

Last month the gas company sought to have her held in contempt of court-- which could have meant fines or jail time– for coming too close to one of its access roads. Susquehanna County Judge Kenneth Seamans ruled in her favor. He agreed she got too close but declined to punish her, since there appeared to be some confusion about whether it was a wellpad access road or a family driveway.

Cabot also asked the judge to impose a permanent injunction on Scroggins. The final deal means she’ll have to stay off its property and observe buffer zones ranging from 25 to 100 feet.

Although Scroggins initially agreed to those terms, she later changed her mind and refused to sign the settlement documents. Cabot argued her signature was unnecessary and that the agreement should stand.

In a November 6th ruling, Judge Seamans sided with Cabot and found that Scroggins had, in fact, agreed to the deal through her attorneys.

Scroggins says she’s uncomfortable with Cabot having the power to prohibit her from public roads. The buffer zones would also extend on to other people’s private property, even if she has the permission to be there.

Note: this story has been updated. The judge later withdrew this order, at the request of Scroggins’ attorneys. After both sides presented more evidence, the order was reinstated in May 2015.

Comments

  • CatinTx

    Barring her from public roads and other people’s private property when invited. How is that even constitutional?

    • Richard T. Desvernine Jr.

      Do I really pay taxes for this?

      • FrackDaddy

        No!

    • Lij Lij Briggy

      I don’t think it is, but she’d need a good lawyer? Anyone want to work pro bono for this woman?

  • http://www.crackineverything.com/ DeanMarshall

    This Judge needs to be removed!
    I think a parade of visitors to every one of Cabots sites is in order now!

  • JimBarth

    If a Cabot truck ran Vera’s car off the road, George Stark would ask the judge to rule that Vera violated her injunction, after all, the Cabot truck is Cabot property.
    What is the regulated distance stated, in Act 13, between a toxic flow back waste pit and a person’s water well or house? Vera is not allowed within 100′ of a Cabot access road? What is the distance allowed in PA between a shale gas well, and a person’s house or drinking water well, 300′? Vera is not allowed within 100′ of a Cabot access road at the point where it meets a public road, or private property? How close to a person’s house does PA allow an extraction access road, or even a well pad? Is there even a restriction listed? I remember standing on the porch of the Carter house in Dimock, in November of 2009, and the pad was about 100′ from the edge of the house. The pad extended right up to Carter Road. Would Vera be able to drive on that public road?
    Thank God that the shale gas extraction industry is so arrogant, that its lies are transparent, and that it wildly over reaches and abuses people. It makes it just a little easier for people to believe that shale gas extraction is what it is: an inherently contaminating process practiced by a sociopathic industry which doesn’t give a damn about its impacts on the land, water, air, and, people.

    • Anne Ryan

      So well said!

    • FrackDaddy

      Nice rant, But as always lacking in facts! Why don’t you look at the study released by Northern Colorado U, just this week. It includes chemical breakdowns of FF from 5 states…………

  • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

    Cabot and that judge are in cahoots! Both need punished! In trying to punish a grandmother for protecting the environment they have elevated her to superhero status. Could have never happened w/o their help! What a bunch of lunatics! Start arranging tours from 100 ft. Go Vera!

  • AlSever

    Just shows you what a bunch of wimps are running the gas companies! Why do they humor her? She is just another person with the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • paulroden

    Ah, yet another example of “American, blind justice.” Even if she “cease and desisted” from any of her public tours, under the original restraining order, she couldn’t even leave her house, go to the grocery store, visit friends or go to the doctor. Are they going to have her arrested even for carrying out her everyday errands and tasks, let alone taking people on tours or monitoring the fracking operations, since the “Don’t Expect Protection” department or DEP, the DCNR, Department of Conservation and Natural Resources or the Department of Consumable Natural Resources and the DOH, the “” Don’t Offer Help” or Department of Health can’t do their jobs to protect the environment and public health. We will see if the new, Governor Wolf, can guard the hen house, or will it return to Governor Corporates practice of “drill baby drill” and the environment be damned along with the public health. You can’t have agencies infringing on private industry with “burdensome regulations” and burdensome taxes.” It is undermining economic growth and our energy independence. Besides, the chemicals are as safe as the ones under your kitchen cabinet. And now one has ever had their water supply contaminated nor suffer ill health effects from fracking. It is “better things, for better living through chemistry.”

    • FrackDaddy

      Another lie! From the beginning Cabot has said they are not trying to stop her from living her life, Just trespassing and endangering herself and workers! Read the court records, And you will see what a liar she is!

      • paulroden

        The original restraining order, wouldn’t even allow her to go to the grocery store or visit friends it was so restrictive. How would you like to live under those conditions? You don’t think they are trying to intimidate her? They want her to move or at least shut up. I guess Cabot doesn’t believe in the First Amendment and finds in “moot”. Cabot is trying everything it can to stop her and shut her up. If they are conducting their drilling safely and not harming the environment, then they have nothing to hide. But their environmental and safety record has much to be desired. So what do citizens like Vera Scuggins supposed to do, just shut up and move away? Are we supposed to give up and not say or do anything while these rich gas drillers just ruin our environment? Are private property and profits that sacred? if the Sons of Liberty had that attitude, America wouldn’t exist. If African-Americans did boycott public buses, sit in at lunch counters,march and fill the jails and get arrested trying to register to vote we would never have the Civil Rights Act. It is not nice to trespass, but if that is freedom’s price from environmental destruction and poisoned water and air, so be it.

        • FrackDaddy

          Again, You can read from day Cabot laywers said, they do not wish to keep her from shopping, schools, friends. I was just Vera and folks like you, doing what you do, and only talking about half the story and making it sound far worse than it was.

          Look it up!

  • Julieann Wozniak

    Bow down before the one you serve which isn’t, in the case, the public. Cabot is a bad actor, with no respect for the law and human life. Ms. Scroggins needs a camera-equipped drone; then she can use technology to keep an eye on Cabot’s malfeasance.

    • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

      Awesome idea!

  • http://sadbutmadlad.com/ SadButMadLad

    Who’d want a supporter of paedophilia and incest on their property? She should be banned from all parks and public areas as well. http://dailycaller.com/2013/08/29/this-anti-fracking-activist-made-some-weird-claims-about-children-and-sex/

    • KevKevSarver

      You should try reading that entire thing in context, not the Daily Caller snippets you link to.

  • George Wythe

    What a sorry bunch of enviro-activists loonies you people are! It’s about time Scroggins is kept OUT of Cabot as well as others in the gas business. Good riddance Scroggie!

    • kenneth weir

      Spoken like a true blue fossil fool!

  • tke265

    This woman badmouth Cabot at the same time she advocates for child pedophilia And dances naked at vomitorium parties. What a saint

    • http://williamahuston.blogspot.com/ William Huston

      Meanwhile, “Saint” Vic Furman, exposes himself publicly (with minors present) outside PJs in South Montrose as people walk to Dimock to bring people clean water to drink. QUOTE: Let the man without sin cast the fist stone. ENDQUOTE

      • tke265

        Bill your a liar… Yes I shot you the moon but there were no children present, I was 200 yards off the road when you zoomed in and in Dimocks Walk for Clean water only a total of 17 people showed up only 4 from PA. Why don’t you post all the other pictures of the crack of my ass you took and posted when I was sitting in chairs at meetings. “plumbers crack” you have such a fascination with my asss why don’t you kiss it instead of the pictures you took. ASSSlick

        • tke265

          Hey Willy count the kids here is the whole video and NOTE THE PEOPLE ARE ALREADY PASSED THE BAR AND YOU HAD TO SWING YOUR CAMERA BACK AROUND… AND TELL THEM WHY I SHOT YOU THE MOON BILLY… ONLY AFTER YOU OPENED YOUR STUPID MOUTH AND ASKED ME IF I WAS DRINKING AND DRIVING. LOSER FRACKING IS COMING HA HA http://www.nofrackingway.us/2014/08/30/new-yorks-largest-fracking-chickenhawk-admits-to-indecent-exposure/

          • JimBarth

            If you are truly Vic Furman, you are making a fool of yourself in these posts. Most five year old children have a better command of English, and on an emotional level, you are writing as if your head has exploded and the insides are oozing out. The fact that a person of your age would flash your flabby buttocks at people in the first place speaks volumes as to your lack of character. Your posts are the equivalent of a video that shows you running around, buck naked, eyes bulging, screaming at the moon. Are you really Vic Furman, or, is tke265 Vic Furman’s enemy, presenting him in a terrible light?

          • tke265

            who are you to talk about flashing asss… mine was done for a split second butt at the hearings in Albany Janette flashed hers all the way up the stairs wearing that black mini skirt that most 15 year olds wouldn’t wear

          • JimBarth

            What is your point, that because Jannette Barth and James Barth share the same last name, I shouldn’t comment on your low class trashy behavior (how old are you, 70?, yet you “flash” your butt like a jerk teenager)? If that is you at your best articulation, you truly are an idiot. Do yourself a favor, close your mouth and zip up your pants.

      • tke265

        willy try and control yourself

    • kevkevkavon

      You ever hear the one about throwing rocks at glass houses? One of the leading proponents of fracking in Pennsylvania exposed himself in front of families, but you’re ok with that? http://www.nofrackingway.us/2014/08/30/new-yorks-largest-fracking-chickenhawk-admits-to-indecent-exposure/

      • tke265

        You been lied.too. It was me and the only one who witnessed it was silly Willy look at the video, the march was already past the restaurant The videographer was lagging behind the marchers and there were no children. The evidence is right there in front of you on the video you posted

        • Brett Jennings

          Others did see it, and there is a concern. Open lewdness while a minor under 16 is present or part of a group also brings with it a charge of illegal communication with a minor. You really want to register where you live the rest of your life, go ahead and run your mouth.

          • tke265

            I Suggest you send this advice to Vera.

  • Hugh Kimball

    A group I was with took one of Vera’s tours. We talked to people affected by ground water pollution in Dimock and we talked to a couple of drillers on a well site. Everyone including Vera was respectful of any properties we were on and none did anything to endanger themselves or anyone else. The drillers were also courteous and told us a bit of what was going on on the well site at the time. I am amazed that Cabot finds this little gray haired lady to be such a threat, and that a court would back them up. This is a sad state of affairs. My sympathies are totally with Vera.

  • Lij Lij Briggy

    Oh, she can’t walk on their property, but they can toxic trespass on our land , air and water and get us sick…………. this whole system is geared to industry at the expense of people. Disgusting.

  • beckycass

    It is downright absurd that any enterprise which impacts the local landscape so dramatically can legally prevent that local community from educating itself & others about its industrial activities.

    • FrackDaddy

      Its called trespassing, Been on the books for a long time!

  • Pat Goldsmith

    Has anyone seen that in a court case in Canada a company called Kinder Morgan has argued that protesters’ facial expressions constitute assault? http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/11/10/1343820/-Attorney-for-Texas-oil-giant-says-facial-expressions-made-by-pipeline-protesters-are-assault?fb_action_ids=10152387161646640&fb_action_types=og.likes

    This is what happens when you have more money than God. You are special. It reminds me of the affluenza defense, which basically means that if you’re rich you shouldn’t have to go to jail for crimes you commit because you’re more sensitive than ordinary people, more important, just plain better. Not being special, Vera Scroggins has to watch where she goes and what she says. Who knows, maybe she better start watching her facial expressions too.

    • paulroden

      Pat, don’t you believe in the “Golden Rule?” Them that has the gold, write the rules. The gas drillers bought Governor Corbett for $1.4+ million dollars. They got the EPA and their “burdensome regulations” like the Clean Air, Clean Water, Safe Drinking Water and Resource Conservation and Recovery Act out of their hair. Isn’t the “unregulated, invisible hand of the free market” just great in protecting us and the environment from fracking chemicals?

  • http://grandmasthinking.blogspot.com/ GrandmasThinking

    Two thoughts: 1) we need to create a fund to buy Vera a SUPER DUPER camera with an exceptionally powerful zoom lens and 2) This ruling must not stand! It is the beginning of a level of corporate domination over civil rights and liberties that is an affront to all Americans.

    • FrackDaddy

      hey granny! Vera helped write the order with the help of her lawyers, then refused to sign, to try and get another 15 minutes. Its in the court records look it up! Or you can just keep on following blindly, listening to what these PAID activist have to say! (that’s why she requested her finical records sealed)

      • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

        Get over yourself! Go away troll!

        • FrackDaddy

          I live in the county! You not so much, So who is the troll……?

    • paulroden

      This is a slap in the face and a gag order to try to intimidate Vera Scoggins and any other anti-fracking activist from doing anything to expose the impact of fracking. The DEP is not able and not allowed to do its job. The EPA has no jurisdiction. So what are citizens supposed to do? If Cabot is doing everything right, they would invite her in, if they had nothing to hide. But their record is abysmal. How can we know what is going on? The DEP has to ask for permission and send a report to Harrisburg before doing anything. I suppose the next thing Cabot will do is sue her for libel, defamation of character, restraint of trade,and to cease and desist from protesting, anywhere in the county where they are drilling. I wouldn’t put it past them.

  • JoanneCorey

    Cabot holding a lease on mineral rights should not give them any say about whom the landowner invites onto the property. There is also no way that any person should be restricted from public areas like roadways. Cabot is not endangered by Vera or anyone else sitting down for coffee in a neighbor’s kitchen or standing along the edge of a public road.

    • Frank Chernega

      Vera at work – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qv2IUc756A Digusting that all her defenders condone this disgusting mouth.

      • tke265

        THIS IS ONE OF A FEW VIDEO’S VERA IS WEARING CLOTHES

    • FrackDaddy

      Joanne, I Hope the wind is blowing north from Little Meadows! Abd she can sit and have coffee in any ones house (unless Cabot owns the house). And not paying attention to your surrounding on or near a well pad can be a death sentence! If she gets hit by a truck, is she going to sue the land owner, the town or the gas company? Case closed!

  • Frank Chernega
    • JimBarth

      In the scene between McAleer and Scroggins, it is McAleer who is the provocateur. He is the one crashing an event, baiting his opposition, which is not adequately portrayed here. It is his M.O. to insert himself into a higher level event in hopes of raising his level of exposure, and subsequent name recognition. He did this here in Dimock, he did it in NYC at Matt Damon’s press conference (and he was soundly shamed by Damon). He did it in Callicoon, NY by screening his pathetic movie FrackNation in a bar next to the cinema that was screening Josh Fox’s Gasland II (Josh drew 400, McAleer, 20). He tried it at the premiere of Gasland II in NYC, and on and on. While Scroggins often lacks grace in this scene, McAleer deserves every inch of the contempt she exhibits towards him. As for the impoundment being constructed right up to the edge of the road? Which is more bothersome to people, Scroggins “trespassing” and asking questions, or the fact that the impoundment is being constructed up to the edge of the highly travelled public road. I love seeing the rocks and dirt rolling down the side of the dam being constructed, almost onto the road. Thanks for posting this.

      • Frank Chernega

        “While Scroggins often lacks grace in this scene”…LOL!!!! Save the self – righteous indignation and excuses for someone else. Here are two links that say that Josh Fox is a liar and con man. Dylan Ratigan trying to get Fox to answer a simple question – https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=kiHkFKeKTok#t=104 Why does Fox want to go “off the record”? – http://therightscoop.com/wow-gasland-filmmaker-begs-to-go-off-the-record-when-confronted-by-npr-over-falsehood/ If you want some real science on drilling that is slightly more believable than Fox’s or Scroggins’ ranting, here’s 3 Cornell PhD’s that know a tad more than the two aforementioned con artists – https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n5elleYzaRE

        • JimBarth

          Any indignation I feel is a result of your irrelevant posts in relation to this article in StateImpact Pennsylvania. Do you not have anything pertinent to write about the injunction and the potential legal impacts on ordinary residents, citizens? Rather, you present a short video interaction between Scroggins and McAleer, which has nothing to do with the issues, and is presented out of context. It has no relation whatsoever to her tours of the Cabot extraction sites. You simply want to present Scroggins in as poor a light as you can scramble up. Now, you would like to extend this into a debate about Josh Fox’s credibility? Do you have anything to write about this article, and the issues presented by Marie Cusick? I didn’t think so.

          • Frank Chernega

            How about Scroggins’ total disregard and disrespect for other people’s PRIVATE property – https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=KnPfc67946I#t=214 Fanatics and lunatics need to be removed from society, not treating other people’s property like it’s theirs on a constant basis and making money from it to boot and not idolized by the anti – energy, pro 1%ers among us.

      • tke265

        So much for your chants “what is democracy” hippycrite

      • FrackDaddy

        Check Mrs Scroggins You Tube account! She does such things everyday! In public meetings, on private land, and in other states! And i think why someone trying to stop FF is cruising around a super bus, talking to a know lair like Craig.
        So i guess its only a free county, when it suits you?

    • ltsnyder
      • Frank Chernega

        This is hilarious!!!!!!!! Ray Kemble and Vera yaking about water. Where are the chemists? Where are the geologists? Where is anyone in this video with an education and advanced college degree to analyze this scenario for that matter? Just two fractivists trying to make money. Ever see anyone take that jug that Kemble and Stevens parade around with to have it analyzed? NOPE!!!! These folks give carnies and circuses a bad name.

        • ltsnyder

          I guess the question is, how many videos do you want. Or how many will convince you? I just pulled one out of the hat, there are hundreds acknowledged by the PA DEC, but they don’t acknowledge contamination beyond 2500′ from the well so place like franklin forks where ‘Hevanly Angles’ restaurant ripped the sinkout of their bathroom are SOL.

  • tke265
  • Anne Ryan

    I wish we could ban Cabot from this county. Vera is a woman of intelligence, honor and courage. They do not know what to do with that. its foreign to them. Just watch their ads for the lies.

    • FrackDaddy

      Funny, Cause most people here in MY county want them here, like them here, and feel just the opposite for Mrs Vera! Why dont you look up the real facts behind this permanent ban? Mrs Scroggins help write it! So why is she now offended by it? You fell head over heals for the lies!

  • http://www.youtube.com/user/veraduerga Vera Scroggins

    I’m still doing tours and have six other gas companies to visit besides Cabot; and the setback for gas wells now is 500′ from homes; and this permanent injunction will have to be appealed if possible…Cabot needs to keep it’s citizens and media away in case they find out too much; I get regular calls from media , who upon contacting Cabot, are refused or not responded to for interviews and industry tours, so, they are happy to call me and others in the county to get Gas Tours which Cabot won’t give for some strange reason…

    • Frank Chernega

      These three Cornell PhD’s, although not nearly as well – versed and knowledgeable as you, can shed some light on high volume hydraulic fracturing science – https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=n5elleYzaRE Also, Doug McKlnko, chairman of the Bradford County Pa commissioners says you are in a state of delusion and denial – https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V4JQjnb8TZE

      • Steve Todd

        If these guys not nearly as well-versed and knowledgeable, we should hear from someone who is well-versed and knowledgeable instead.

        • Frank Chernega

          Ask and ye shall receive – she is classy as well as well – versed in the earth and atmospheric sciences as Cathles, Brown, and Hunter – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Qv2IUc756A

          • Steve Todd

            What does this have to do with how well versed any are? I swear at folks who antagonize me too. As a civil/environmental engineer of over 18 years, I am very well versed on the subject. I don’t get your point of reposting this video at least 3 separate times on this link alone…it seems that might be your point. Do you have any relevant material?

          • Frank Chernega

            Profuse profanity is a sure sign of mental weakness and possible emotional disturbance with an inability to counter in a thoughtful, rational and witty manner. Apparently you fall into the same category as Scroggins? As far as re – posting the radio show, it is to make sure people are made aware that some of Cornell’s best minds agree that high volume hydraulic fracturing is a safe and reliable means of making our country energy independent. It is far safer than crossing the street or getting in your car where 30,000 drivers die annually on our highways and does far far less aquifer damage than all those buried gasoline tanks around our nation. You and your ilk are demanding something that is impossible to achieve with drilling: perfection….something that has and never will be obtained in any human endeavor that involves man and machines.

          • Steve Todd

            I find no reliable connection between intellect and use of profanity, only posts (usually anonymous to boot) claiming such. I’ve spoken at length with Vera, and she seems very perceptive and educated. I know I am, as it is very hard to acquire a PSU Engineering degree with a 3.52 without at least the intellect part. It would be fun to see what source led you to your independent conclusion of intellect and swearing.

            I don’t really care about anyone’s emotional stability, I care about their positions on issues. I do find those who judge adversely on emotional stability lack empathy. That, in turn, leaves their opinions less credible to me.

            You’ve now said those same “Cornell’s best minds” are “not well versed”. Both can not be true. Please revise or clarify.

            Me and “my ilk” (while not ‘profanity, certainly disrespectful, and by your logic equally indicative of mental weakness and possible emotional disturbance as profanity) are demanding we convert to clean energy. Nothing less. Certainly have never seen any of “my ilk” – and I know a lot of them – demand perfection of anyone or any thing. Again: it would be fun to see what source led you to your independent conclusion of this as well.

          • Frank Chernega

            Apparently you are unable to discern sarcasm when I stated that the 3 Cornell PhD’s were not as “well versed” as Vera who has no engineering or scientific background at all. Google it if you don’t believe it. Here’s the profiles of the 3 Cornell professors who are undoubtedly some of the best minds in their fields of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences ( Dr. Cathles and Dr. Brown) and Chemical and Biomolecular Engineering (Dr. Andrew Hunter) – http://www.cheme.cornell.edu/people/profile-lec.cfm?netid=ah363 http://www.eas.cornell.edu/people/profile.cfm?netid=lmc19 http://www.eas.cornell.edu/people/profile.cfm?netid=ldb7 Their 17 page commentary on the very flawed theory by Anthony Ingraffea and Robert Howarth that coal is cleaner than nat gas – http://www.geo.cornell.edu/eas/PeoplePlaces/Faculty/cathles/Natural%20Gas/2012%20Cathles%20et%20al%20Commentary%20on%20Howarth.pdf

          • Steve Todd

            I believe that they are well-versed, even though I disagree with their opinions. I know Vera to be extremely well-versed. I know I am, and our opinions are similar. Is your finding her not as well-versed based on her disagreement with you, or on her formal education?

          • Frank Chernega

            There are a huge number of folks who disagree with you and Vera. Here’s another very influential man who disagrees with both of you. Although not a man of science, Doug McKlinko has been re – elected numerous times as a commissioner in Bradford County Pa. If gas drilling was so devastating as you and Vera claims, Mr. McKlinko would never be re – elected by his constituents. Here he is speaking on the effects of drilling in Bradford County which is the second most heavily drilled county in Pa – https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=V4JQjnb8TZE Further proof of just how out of touch you and Vera and others are on the subject of HVHF, the following anti – drilling politicians got crushed in the recent Nov 4 NY elections – Anndrea Starzak, Martha Robertson, Howie Hawkins, Cecilia Tkaczyk, who I believe went with Vera on one of her Magical Mystery Bus tours and many others. I guess the voters of NY are all stupid and ill – informed?

          • Steve Todd

            I’ve never thought much less said voters of NY are all stupid and ill – informed. You’ve said that Vera and I are out of touch. Curious how you have independently arrived at that criticism without ever once having spoken to me on the issue.

            A huge number of folks are free to disagree with me.

            Your “very influential man, Doug McKlinko”, would have easily been re-elected if he lives in any of our 67 PA counties except the 5-7 which are at all competitive. His positions on any given issue would have very little to do with that. Here in Dauphin, it is always whichever two Rs run (almost always after an uncontested primary) and the one Dem required by law. Their positions are rarely known, and never seem to affect the predictable outcome.

    • FrackDaddy

      Vera, you forgot to tell everyone that you help write the permanent injunction with your lawyers, then refused to sign as a publicity stunt! Any one can look at the transcripts and see that! So why are you lying about this? You also forgot to mention the Judge reminded the lawyers from both sides of their dudy’s in reporting crimes, over some photo’s and documents you handed over! So why do you tell the whole story? The fact you lie everyday, is coming out more and more!

      • Tim Ruggiero

        Yes, that’s why Vera does this, risks fines and a jail sentence-purely for publicity. Please enlighten us, as to what lies are being told-by Vera, that is. We well know the lies and deception Cabot tells. By the way, did the DEP lift the consent order against Cabot?

        • Taylor Barry

          When the judge asked her if she was willing to go to jail she teared up and sheepishly said “no your honor”

          • JimBarth

            Taylor, perhaps you should volunteer to take Vera’s place?
            You are a man, surely you would not “tear up”, or be “sheepish”.

        • vforba

          Vera is a plant, not native to this area. Someone who likes to come in and cause trouble. Glad she has been removed

      • brasch

        Hey Anonymous FrackDaddy–apparently truth and transparency about environ. damages and public health issues don’t matter to you. You might own land that gets you money–or you might be someone who subcontracts to a gas co. Or, you just might be an idiot who thinks corps. can do everything right. But, one thing you are not is educated. Your grammar is atrocious. (If you don’t know that word, look it up–or have Vera read you a definition.)

        • FrackDaddy

          Brach, Typical Anti comment! Full of your self, but not of facts! Add in some insults, Seems like the You read the Sierra Club play book.

      • Glen Etzkorn

        frackdaddy let us hope your a filthy frack worker exposed to latent fracker cancers and your only waiting for your, 5, 10 or 15 year death sentence. Please take the early opt out.

      • MJS

        Sorry FrackDaddy, but you lost me at “dudy’s”. Unless you meant the brown stuff that comes out of your ass, which would actually be spelled “doody” or “doodie”, you probably meant “duties”. But even in that event, you are clearly an idiot speaking from your a__hole who doesn’t have any first-hand knowledge of what occurred over the past year with this, so maybe you did mean doodie after all.

      • Mary Ann

        Gas company shill who can’t even spell….

        • FrackDaddy

          I am glad my spelling is the only thing you disagree with! And i have never worked for a gas company! Just another resident of Susquehanna county sick of this excuse for a woman!

  • ltsnyder

    No one believes a “verbal” contract can exist.

    No one that talked to a landman can hold them to any of their promises made verbally.
    Vera’s laywers did not think a agreement could exist until finalized with a written agreement and paper.
    The Cabot lawyers did not think a verbal agreement could exist, that’s why they had the agreement draw up.

    IMHO, Vera verbally “agreed” to see it draw up, all parties knew signatures would be required.

    So the Judge legally “slammed” Vera.

    “Banned for life”, that, in and of it’s self should say,this is an industry that we don’t want in New York state. If I can’t go and see what is going on, I want no part of it.

    • FrackDaddy

      It was the proof ( emails sent to her attorny’s, And them to Cabot) that shows the negotiation of the agreement, that proved in Judge Ken’s eyes she agreed to terms! She only then tried to get 15 more minutes for herself!
      Why would the ALCU, who reps the KKK ask to be dismissed as her counsel? Also why would judge Ken instruct the counsels, to remember their legal oblations to report crimes, over some photo’s and documents she turned over? Have not hear the end yet.

      • ltsnyder

        E-mails are not a contract, show me a landman who concluded a lease contract with an e-mail with out a pdf with signature, and I will show you an invalidated contract. It is common sense.

        • FrackDaddy

          Well, when the e-mails show Mrs Scroggins is actively participating in the negotiation, i guess it does, says a judge in good standing in this state!

          So, can claim all you want. But the facts are the facts!

          My guess is Judge Ken is sick of her games, and using his court as a circus!

          • ltsnyder

            Right, fact are facts, Cabot come to her to sign a document because contracts must be put in writing and signed. Only a fracking-phile like your self would think otherwise. :) You really think there is a lease agreement made by phone? What’s in your pipe?

          • FrackDaddy

            Just me and a Judge in good standing in the state of Pennsylvania……..

        • FrackDaddy

          Hey, this is just for you! Your knowledge of contracts, Seems to be as good as your knowlage of HVHF.

          http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/20/realestate/20posting.html?_r=0

          “As much as communication originally written or typed on paper, an e-mail retrievable from computer storage” is proof of a deal, according to the court’s opinion, which was written by Associate Justice David Friedman.

  • mariecusick

    Dear commenters:

    Please remember to keep the discussion civil and refrain from making personal attacks.

    Thanks,
    Marie

    • Taylor Barry

      Marie… thank you for this and for removing the trash talk and false accusations that were up here

      • FrackDaddy

        Funny how PRO gas comments contain facts and links, and the rest just name calling and fear mongering.

        • http://www.localharvest.org/farms/M18178 Maggie Henry

          If that were true every post of yours would be history!

          • FrackDaddy

            How did the pipe line go?

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