{"id":35215,"date":"2022-09-26T16:14:30","date_gmt":"2022-09-26T21:14:30","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/?p=35215"},"modified":"2022-09-26T16:14:30","modified_gmt":"2022-09-26T21:14:30","slug":"how-an-oklahoma-city-technology-center-is-helping-first-responders-fight-electric-vehicle-fires","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2022\/09\/26\/how-an-oklahoma-city-technology-center-is-helping-first-responders-fight-electric-vehicle-fires\/","title":{"rendered":"How an Oklahoma City technology center is helping first responders fight electric vehicle fires"},"content":{"rendered":"

Instructors and administrators from Francis Tuttle Technology Center gathered around an electric vehicle (EV) battery that had been set on fire at a training area for the Edmond Fire Department. On a warm August morning, smoke billowed out of the sides, cells popped intermittently, and flames rose to about two feet high at their apex.<\/span><\/p>

More electric vehicles on the road means more questions about how emergency responders should adapt to the new technology at car crash scenes.<\/span><\/p>

The demonstration is to prepare Francis Tuttle for a new program it\u2019s launching this fall that aims to train first responders on how to prepare for and manage alternative energy vehicle fires. The program is run by <\/span>Onward OKC<\/span><\/a>, a collaboration of five technology center districts in Central Oklahoma.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>

According to Jesse Benne, Edmond Fire Department Captain of Prevention, one of the main challenges with EVs is there\u2019s little standardization across car makes \u2014 from where the battery is located to the <\/span>chemical makeup of the lithium<\/span><\/a> inside.<\/span><\/p>

\u201cI think if we just know what we\u2019re looking at and know what we\u2019re dealing with and educate ourselves, I think we can mitigate it,\u201d Benne said.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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Beth Wallis\/StateImpact Oklahoma<\/p>\n

Flames pour out of the side of an electric vehicle battery at an Edmond Fire Department training area.<\/p>\n<\/div>

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Benne said with internal combustion engine vehicles, responders generally know what to expect when working car crashes \u2014 most cars place fuel tanks in the back and motors in the front. When responders see a car that\u2019s been hit from the rear, he said they know to expect fuel leakage. But EVs are different.<\/span><\/p>

\u201cThey can put the battery under the seat, they can put it under the car, across the entire floorboard,\u201d Benne said. \u201cThey can put it in the trunk. They can put it in the front. They could literally put it wherever they want. And there\u2019s been no standard or manuals so far that says for this vehicle, this is what you got.\u201d<\/span><\/p>

While the National Fire Protection Association published an <\/span>alternative vehicle fuel guide<\/span><\/a> for first responders in 2018, Benne said it\u2019s due for updates.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>

Monte Doan, a program developer and trainer at Francis Tuttle, said the field experiment was a fact-finding mission to see how long it took for the battery to catch fire. Ultimately, it took about three minutes.<\/span><\/p>

\u201cWith one of these [electric vehicle batteries], the reaction is slow,\u201d Doan said. \u201cYou start getting a little puff of smoke, as we saw. And lo and behold, in a little while, we got some small flames; it just gradually started to burn. Well, this answered a lot of questions for us.\u201d<\/span><\/p>

Doan said besides learning how much time responders have before an EV catches fire, the group is also learning the best methods for containing a fire while teaching at the technology center. He used a <\/span>fire suppression system<\/span><\/a> made specifically for EV fires at the demonstration, three of which he said are placed strategically around the lab.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>

Because <\/span>EVs can reignite<\/span><\/a> hours or even days after being seemingly extinguished, the suppression system is intended to get the fire under control so firefighters can <\/span>flood the battery<\/span><\/a> with large amounts of water for longer durations. Doan also has a fire suppression blanket that smothers the fire until firefighters arrive.<\/span><\/p>

While EV battery fires <\/span>burn much hotter<\/span><\/a> than gas-powered vehicle fires \u2014 4,900 degrees Fahrenheit compared to 1,500 degrees Fahrenheit \u2014 EVs are significantly less likely to catch fire than internal combustion engine vehicles. <\/span>Research indicates<\/span><\/a> that EVs have a .0012% of catching fire, while gas-powered vehicles have a .1% chance of catching fire.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>

Though those percentages differ based on the agency doing the research, there is a consensus that gas-powered vehicles are about 50-80 times more likely to catch fire. But by far, hybrid vehicles \u2014 which have a high voltage battery and an internal combustion engine \u2014 are much more likely to catch fire than either EVs or gas vehicles. <\/span>According to one research group<\/span><\/a>, hybrids are over 138 times more likely to ignite than all-electric vehicles.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>

Just getting to the lithium battery during a car wreck could present serious issues for first responders. Doan\u2019s class will be practicing on a 2022 Ford Mustang Mach-E. While they don\u2019t plan to set the car on fire, they want to use the car to orient responders on finding the battery\u2019s tricky location. In the Mustang, the battery is under the hood, beneath a plastic panel he said is \u201cnot well identified.\u201d<\/span><\/p>

\u201cAnd the only way to get the hood open is to get it from inside the vehicle,\u201d Doan said. \u201cAnd the only way to get inside the vehicle when it\u2019s in a wreck, if you can\u2019t get the door open \u2014 which you may not be able to do \u2014 is break the window. Then, you get to the manual door release. \u2026 And the hood release on the Mustang, you have to pull it two times. And\u2026 the cables [could be broken] in the wreck.\u201d<\/span><\/p>

Doan said electrocution is another worry for responding to EV wrecks. While studies found a <\/span>low risk of electrocution<\/span><\/a> from wrecked EVs, the high voltage level \u2014 400 volts as compared to 12 volts in a gas-powered vehicle battery \u2014 is significantly more dangerous.<\/span><\/p>

\u201cAll of the high voltage wiring is color-coded orange,\u201d Doan said. \u201cAnd one thing first responders do when they get to a vehicle, they\u2019ve been trained to use their bolt cutters and cut the 12 volt battery cables. Well, they get into one of these [EVs], and they\u2019re in a hurry, and they take their bolt cutters and cut an orange wire. Now they\u2019re looking at high voltage.\u201d<\/span><\/p>

Capt. Benne said it\u2019s important to keep in mind EVs aren\u2019t necessarily riskier than gas-powered vehicles, but the technology is new, and there\u2019s a lot to learn.<\/span><\/p>

\u201cI wouldn\u2019t say that [EVs] are any more dangerous than an internal combustion motor with a 35-gallon tank of gasoline underneath it,\u201d Benne said. \u201cAnything can happen. And that could be just as dangerous, if not moreso.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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Beth Wallis\/StateImpact Oklahoma<\/p>\n

An electric vehicle engine sits on a slab of concrete after cooling down from being set on fire.<\/p>\n<\/div>

The first responder training course kicks off in November at Francis Tuttle with approximately three classes a month, ranging from a single day to a week long. While this class is currently only open to first responders, training for municipality technicians is in the works. To register, email Walter.Miller@FrancisTuttle.edu.<\/span><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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