{"id":27926,"date":"2017-02-16T11:18:06","date_gmt":"2017-02-16T17:18:06","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/?p=27926"},"modified":"2017-02-16T11:37:07","modified_gmt":"2017-02-16T17:37:07","slug":"rep-leslie-osborn-on-grda-should-we-be-in-the-electric-utility-business","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2017\/02\/16\/rep-leslie-osborn-on-grda-should-we-be-in-the-electric-utility-business\/","title":{"rendered":"Rep. Leslie Osborn On GRDA: Should We Be In The Electric Utility Business?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_27936\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 620px;\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-27936\" alt=\"Rep. Leslie Osborn, R-Mustang, the new chair of the House Appropriations and Budget Committee.\" src=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2017\/02\/PHOTO-2-16-Osborn1.jpg\" width=\"620\" height=\"413\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2017\/02\/PHOTO-2-16-Osborn1.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2017\/02\/PHOTO-2-16-Osborn1-500x333.jpg 500w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2017\/02\/PHOTO-2-16-Osborn1-150x100.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2017\/02\/PHOTO-2-16-Osborn1-300x200.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Logan Layden \/ StateImpact Oklahoma<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rep. Leslie Osborn, R-Mustang, the new chair of the House Appropriations and Budget Committee.<\/p>\n<\/div><p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.okhouse.gov\/District.aspx?District=47\">State Representative Leslie Osborn<\/a> is the new chair of the powerful House Appropriations and Budget Committee, an influential position that gives her bills extra weight. StateImpact talked to Osborn about legislation she\u2019s pushing to increase mining fees, and to explore the sale of the Grand River Dam Authority.<\/p><p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/308059864&auto_play=false&hide_related=false&show_comments=true&show_user=true&show_reposts=false&visual=false\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><br \/>\n<!--more--><\/p>\n<h3>GRDA in the crosshairs<\/h3><p>The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.grda.com\/\">GRDA is a state-owned electric utility<\/a> that provides power to northeast Oklahoma from hydroelectric dams, coal and natural gas plants. But GRDA also has important water quality monitoring, recreation and law enforcement responsibilities. <a href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2016\/04\/21\/why-killing-the-agency-protecting-oklahomas-most-delicate-rivers-might-be-the-only-way-to-preserve-them\/\">Last year it took control<\/a> of Oklahoma\u2019s network of environmentally sensitive scenic rivers after the agency that used to protect them was eliminated due to budget cuts.<\/p><p>This year, as the state faces an estimated $870 million budget shortfall, State Rep. Leslie Osborn, R-Mustang, has introduced <a href=\"http:\/\/webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us\/cf_pdf\/2017-18%20INT\/hB\/HB1844%20INT.PDF\">a bill that lays out the process of selling GRDA assets<\/a>, which are <a href=\"http:\/\/m.tulsaworld.com\/news\/government\/grda-considering-refinancing-more-than-million-in-debt\/article_3e5af1bc-c751-5586-9138-9169c9b01095.html?mode=jqm\">estimated to be worth<\/a> more than $1 billion. She told StateImpact Oklahoma that bad budget years make her consider funding options she might not have considered before.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>Is laying out a plan to sell the GRDA because of the desperate need for revenue, or do you really think it would be better for the GRDA to be privatized?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>Ever since I\u2019ve been in [office], something I\u2019ve wondered about is are there some things that we administer as state government, or own as a property of state government, that are really not a core service of government? Should we be in the electric utility business is a good question. And is this asset worth a lot of money that we should consider if this is something we could transition to private industry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>You\u2019ve said selling GRDA assets shouldn\u2019t be used to plug a budget hole, although, is it at all tempting? That would do it. That would fix the budget hole this year.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>It would, and of course that\u2019s tempting, but it wouldn\u2019t be wise and it wouldn\u2019t be prudent, because if you plug that with one-time money, are you back in the exact same hole next year?<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>Do you see the scenic rivers being under GRDA\u2019s control for a long period of time even if the state sells some of the agency\u2019s assets?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>I believe that if anybody ever did look and decide that some of the assets were worth selling, it would probably only be something like the electrical transmission portion.<\/p><p>The passage of Osborn\u2019s bill wouldn\u2019t mean the Legislature authorizes the sale of GRDA assets. In fact, the legislature wouldn\u2019t get to approve such a sale if the bill becomes law. The decision would lie with a group of state leaders: The secretary of finance, governor, speaker of the House, and Senate President Pro Tem.<\/p>\n<h3>Mining for money<\/h3><p><a href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2015\/03\/05\/new-severance-tax-on-limestone-miners-gets-through-full-oklahoma-house\/\">Mining is big business in south-central Oklahoma<\/a>, particularly for the limestone needed for road and building construction, and silica sand used in the hydraulic fracturing process. Currently, for every ton of material mined, a penny goes to the Oklahoma Department of Mines, which oversees and permits the industry. Osborn introduced a <a href=\"http:\/\/webserver1.lsb.state.ok.us\/cf_pdf\/2017-18%20INT\/hB\/HB1844%20INT.PDF\">bill to increase that amount<\/a> to one and a quarter cents per ton.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>Is that to help fund the Department of Mines, which has been drastically cut over the past few years?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>When I came in I remember saying \u201cthe Department of Mines? Why in the world do we have that in Oklahoma?\u201d I didn\u2019t know about any gold or silver mines. But every time you see a gravel pit, those are maintained through weights and measures through a very tiny agency called the Department of Mines. I think they have four or five employees. But it\u2019s a very important function. We have consistently cut their budget. A lot of these agencies I\u2019ve been talking about aren\u2019t the big sexy agencies where you want to get more to education, and you want to get more to Corporation Commission for earthquakes, you want to all these kinds of things, but everybody kind of forgets about the Department of Mines. So, this was an actual fee increase requested by industry.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>Requested by industry? That\u2019s pretty strange.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>It was, because they realize it\u2019s important to have regulation so that people feel like when they go out and do these things that people are accountable, that there\u2019s actually a good modicum of regulation, not overregulation. So when an industry comes to you and says \u201cwould you run something to give us a fee increase because you\u2019ve had to cut us so much. This would at least get us back where we could have a little more funding to do what we need to do,\u201d how can you say no to that?<\/p><p>Osborn\u2019s bill to increase the fee for non-coal mining has already passed the Natural Resources and Regulatory Services Subcommittee. She expects her GRDA legislation to get a committee vote within the next two weeks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>State Representative Leslie Osborn is the new chair of the powerful House Appropriations and Budget Committee, an influential position that gives her bills extra weight. StateImpact talked to Osborn about legislation she\u2019s pushing to increase mining fees, and to explore the sale of the Grand River Dam Authority.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":42,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[491],"tags":[518,26,447,42,427],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27926"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/42"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=27926"}],"version-history":[{"count":18,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27926\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":27942,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/27926\/revisions\/27942"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=27926"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=27926"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=27926"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}