{"id":1151,"date":"2011-10-07T10:28:24","date_gmt":"2011-10-07T15:28:24","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/?p=1151"},"modified":"2012-12-19T14:53:17","modified_gmt":"2012-12-19T20:53:17","slug":"oklahoma-vs-texas-a-red-river-rivalry-of-taxes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2011\/10\/07\/oklahoma-vs-texas-a-red-river-rivalry-of-taxes\/","title":{"rendered":"Oklahoma vs. Texas: A Red River Rivalry &#8230; of Taxes?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1175\"  class=\"wp-caption module image center\" style=\"max-width: 620px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Oklahoma is chasing...\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/red_river_rivalry.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1175\" title=\"red_river_rivalry\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/red_river_rivalry.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"403\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/red_river_rivalry.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/red_river_rivalry-500x325.jpg 500w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/red_river_rivalry-150x98.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/red_river_rivalry-300x195.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Ronald Martinez \/ Getty Images Sport<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oklahoma lawmakers have been chasing Texas&#39; economic policy for more than a decade.<\/p>\n<\/div><p>Despite a storied sports rivalry that <a href=\"http:\/\/newsok.com\/ou-finally-steps-up-to-a-table-where-it-can-beat-texas\/article\/3610964?custom_click=lead_story_title\">continues again<\/a> this weekend, Oklahoma lawmakers have a long history of talking up Texas.<\/p><p>Lonestar State-shaped tax reforms <a href=\"http:\/\/okpolicy.org\/blog\/taxes\/summer-rerun-back-to-texas-income-tax-proposal-stirs-up-some-old-memories\/\">remain<\/a> in the playbook today, a decade after our state\u2019s Texas envy created a political frenzy.<\/p><p><!--more-->In the interest of beating Texas in the competition for new industries, then-Gov. Frank Keating proposed eliminating franchise and estate taxes and reducing the state income tax.<\/p><p>In the fall of 1999, a citizen task force proposed a modified flat state income tax, which the Republican governor backed, along with efforts to broaden the tax base by eliminating an assortment of deductions, exemptions and tax credits.<\/p><p>In response, then-State Senate President Pro Tempore Stratton Taylor, a Democrat from Claremore, proposed the \u201cTexas Plan.\u201d The initiative would let voters decide whether Oklahoma should scrap its tax code and replace it with an <em>exact duplicate<\/em> of Texas\u2019 tax code, which didn\u2019t \u2014 and still doesn\u2019t \u2014 tax income or grocery purchases.<\/p><p>[module align=&#8221;left&#8221; width=&#8221;half&#8221; type=&#8221;pull-quote&#8221;]<\/p><p>We believe that there is a need to reform Oklahoma\u2019s tax system &#8230; Failure to do so will make it necessary to repeat the search for new revenue more frequently.<\/p>\n<h6>&#8211; from the 2001 study on Revenue-neutral Tax Reform for Oklahoma&#8217;s &#8220;Conclusions and Recommendations&#8221;<\/h6><p>[\/module]<\/p><p>But the Texas Plan likely was a \u201cploy,\u201d said Alexander Holmes, Regents Chair of the Department of Economics at the University of Oklahoma, who likened the effort to \u201ca pissing contest\u201d between Keating and Taylor, who\u2019d tired of discussing Texas\u2019 economic policy.<\/p><p>Gambit or not, Keating either bought in or called Taylor\u2019s bluff and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.oksenate.gov\/news\/press_releases\/press_releases_2001\/pr032701.html\">endorsed<\/a> putting the Texas Plan up to a statewide vote. The governor and then-State House Speaker Larry Adair, D-Stilwell, also joined with Taylor in commissioning a report on revenue-neutral options for tax reform.<\/p><p>The report, issued in June 2001, was researched and written by five economists from Oklahoma State University and OU, including Holmes.<\/p><p>The argument behind the study: Oklahoma\u2019s tax policy discourages economic growth and development.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1165\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 300px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"The Frank Phillips Tower Center in Bartlesville, where Phillips Petroleum \u2014 now ConocoPhillips \u2014once headquartered.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/frank_phillips_tower.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1165\" title=\"frank_phillips_tower\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/frank_phillips_tower.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"400\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/frank_phillips_tower.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/frank_phillips_tower-113x150.jpg 113w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/frank_phillips_tower-225x300.jpg 225w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Lost Tulsa \/ Flickr<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Frank Phillips Tower Center in Bartlesville, where Phillips Petroleum \u2014 now ConocoPhillips \u2014once headquartered.<\/p>\n<\/div><p>In November that year, state Sen. Glenn Coffee, R-Oklahoma City, urged legislative leaders to repeal the state income tax to help make sure that Bartlesville would remain the headquarters of Phillips Petroleum Co., which had just announced its plans to merge with Houston-based Conoco Inc.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cI have no doubt that our income tax played a significant role in ensuring that Phillips executives will soon be moving to Texas,\u201d Coffee told <em>The Oklahoman<\/em> in November 2001.<\/p><\/blockquote><p>Officials at Phillips wouldn\u2019t comment then on whether an income tax repeal would change their post-merger relocation plans, and the newly formed ConocoPhillips headquarters was moved to Houston.<\/p><p>The income tax repeal never materialized.<\/p>\n<div class=\"embed-documentcloud\" style=\"text-align: center;\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/255003-revenue-neutral-tax-reform-for-oklahoma.html\">https:\/\/www.documentcloud.org\/documents\/255003-revenue-neutral-tax-reform-for-oklahoma.html<\/a><\/div><p>Today, task forces at the state Capitol currently charged with examining tax credits, economic incentives and comprehensive tax reform routinely reference Texas when discussing economic policy.<\/p><p>Current Gov. Mary Fallin, a Republican, supports a tax reform plan <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ctpost.com\/news\/article\/Okla-governor-wants-to-do-away-with-income-tax-1426204.php\">similar<\/a> to that of former Gov. Keating, including eliminating the income tax all together.<\/p><p>State Rep. David Dank, R-Oklahoma City, is chairman of the House appropriations and budget revenue and taxation subcommittee, and he co-chairs the tax credit task force currently examining tax credits and economic incentives deemed \u201cconstitutionally infirm.\u201d<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u201cJob one has to be a complete review of our tax system. We are already being left behind in economic and job growth by states like Texas with no income tax,\u201d Dank said in a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.okhouse.gov\/OkhouseMedia\/News_Story.aspx?NewsID=3748\">statement <\/a>released in early 2011. \u201cIf we are going to compete in the crucial next few years, we need to stop talking and start acting to dramatically reform our state tax system.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<h4>Is OK vs. Texas a Fair Comparison?<\/h4><p>Comparing Oklahoma and Texas economically isn\u2019t easy. The states are very different, and \u2014 when it comes to population, output and size \u2014 things are much bigger in Texas.<\/p><p>With so many differences, does it make sense to compare the two states when it comes to economic policy? In a <a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2011\/09\/22\/is-oklahoma-vs-texas-a-fair-economic-comparison\/\">recent editorial<\/a>, Oklahoma State Treasurer Ken Miller said yes.<\/p><p>Economist Russell Evans agrees.<\/p><p>\u201cOklahoma and Texas are commodity states. Both have big energy industries; both have pretty sizeable ag[riculture] industries,\u201d Evans said. \u201cAs a share of its overall production, Oklahoma has a sizeable manufacturing industry that relies heavily on commodities.\u201d<\/p><p>Evans, an assistant professor of economics and the executive director of the Economic Research & Policy Institute at Oklahoma City University\u2019s Meinders School of Business, said it makes sense for the state&#8217;s policymakers to use some of Texas\u2019 successes as a benchmark by which to judge economic policy here in Oklahoma.<\/p><p>The similarities go beyond key industries, Evans said.<\/p><p>\u201cThere\u2019s a common ideology there that drives both capitols: trying to be pro-business, trying to be low-tax in their own way,\u201d he said.<\/p><p>But the Texas tax formula \u2014 ballyhooed in 2001 and 2011 \u2014 isn\u2019t a one-size-fits-all solution to economic growth, Evans cautioned.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1162\"  class=\"wp-caption module image center\" style=\"max-width: 620px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"A snapshot of the state tax mix of Oklahoma and Texas, which uses a sales tax to help replace revenue from its lack of an income tax.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/ok_texas_tax_rev-copy.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-1162\" title=\"ok_texas_tax_rev copy\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/ok_texas_tax_rev-copy.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"620\" height=\"424\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/ok_texas_tax_rev-copy.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/ok_texas_tax_rev-copy-500x342.jpg 500w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/ok_texas_tax_rev-copy-150x103.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/ok_texas_tax_rev-copy-300x205.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 620px) 100vw, 620px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-media-credit\">NPR StateImpact \/ U.S. Census Bureau<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">A snapshot of the state tax mix of Oklahoma and Texas, which uses a sales tax to help replace revenue lost from its lack of an income tax.<\/p>\n<\/div><p>\u201cThe idea that because Texas has no state income tax that necessarily Oklahoma would benefit from adopting a similar tax mix is flawed logic,\u201d he said.<\/p><p>Texas is growing, and envious politicians and business leaders across the country and here in Oklahoma are looking for policies to imitate.<\/p><p>At a tax credit task force <a href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2011\/09\/08\/four-important-points-made-at-the-tax-credit-task-force-meeting\/\">meeting in September<\/a>, state Rep. Earl Sears, R-Bartlesville, asked a representative of the Greater Oklahoma City Chamber if he had data on companies that chose to locate in Texas after first considering Oklahoma. The representative said he had data about <em>which<\/em> companies chose other states, but didn\u2019t have information on the reasons <em>why<\/em> they went elsewhere.<\/p><p>A lot of national Texas envy stems from tax revenues related to oil and natural gas \u2014 an advantage Oklahoma shares with its southern neighbor, said Dick Lavine, a senior fiscal analyst for the Center for Public Policy Priorities, an Austin-based nonpartisan, nonprofit policy institute that focuses on improving the economic and social conditions of low- and moderate-income Texans.<\/p><p>Compared to Oklahoma, Texas has a much more diversified economy, including a large high-tech center in and around Austin, Lavine said. Dell Computers&#8217; headquarters is there, as is electronics outfit Samsung, which has a semiconductor manufacturing plant that recently started a <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2011\/05\/04\/realestate\/commercial\/04chips.html\">$3.6 billion expansion<\/a>.<\/p><p>And, according to Lavine, Texas\u2019 population growth might not be an accurate metric of an expanding economy.<\/p><p>\u201cIt\u2019s not so much that people are moving here for jobs, it\u2019s that people are born here,\u201d Lavine said. \u201cWe have an unusually young population.\u201d<\/p>\n<div class=\"related-content alignleft\">\n<h4 class=\"related-header\">Related<\/h4>\n<div class=\"links\">\n<h5>Posts<\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2011\/09\/08\/four-important-points-made-at-the-tax-credit-task-force-meeting\/\">Four Important Points Made at the Tax Credit Task Force Meeting<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2011\/09\/22\/is-oklahoma-vs-texas-a-fair-economic-comparison\/\">Is Oklahoma vs. Texas a Fair Economic Comparison?<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"topics\">\n<h5>Topics<\/h5>\n<p class=\"topic\"><img class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/08\/task_force-60x60.jpg\" height=\"60\" width=\"60\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/topic\/task-force-for-the-study-of-state-tax-credits-and-economic-incentives\/\">Meet the Tax Credit Task\u00a0Force<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><p>Lavine said about half of the recent population growth in Texas is \u201cnatural growth\u201d \u2014 a bigger ratio of births minus deaths. The other half of the population growth is split between people relocating from other states, and from other countries, he said.<\/p><p>\u201cThere are lots of reasons for population growth and, therefore, job growth that really has nothing to do with who\u2019s governor or tax incentives or regulation,\u201d Lavine said, noting that many new jobs created in Texas have low pay and little or no benefits.<\/p><p>Texas is tied with Mississippi in having the highest proportion of hourly paid workers who make the minimum wage or less, according to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.mysanantonio.com\/business\/article\/Texas-The-minimum-wage-state-1311815.php\">2010 numbers<\/a> from the Bureau of Labor Statistics.<\/p><p>The recent recession makes it easier to envy Texas, which fared better than most other states. But despite Texas\u2019 pro-business, low-tax mantra, Lavine said the state should thank regulation for much of that recession resilience.<\/p><p>The Texas Constitution <a href=\"http:\/\/www.occc.state.tx.us\/pages\/brochures\/home_equity_lending.html#much\">forbade<\/a> home equity loans until an amendment took effect in 1997. Today, homeowners in Texas can only use 80 percent of their home value as collateral for such lines of credit, which Lavine said has shielded the state from both a slowing U.S. economy and from over-extensions in credit that have proved rampant in recent years.<\/p><p>\u201cThat\u2019s what makes Texas look so much better than the rest of the nation,\u201d Lavine said. \u201cWe didn\u2019t have a housing bubble, therefore we didn\u2019t have a housing burst.\u201d<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Despite a storied sports rivalry that continues again this weekend, Oklahoma lawmakers have a long history of talking up Texas.Lonestar State-shaped tax reforms remain in the playbook today, a decade after our state\u2019s Texas envy created a political frenzy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":36,"featured_media":1175,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[492,16],"tags":[120,55,122,57,116,119,118,53,117,121,60,103,115],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1151"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/36"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1151"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1151\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1223,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1151\/revisions\/1223"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1175"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1151"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1151"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1151"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}