{"id":10550,"date":"2012-10-11T16:05:36","date_gmt":"2012-10-11T21:05:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/?p=10550"},"modified":"2012-12-20T09:57:05","modified_gmt":"2012-12-20T15:57:05","slug":"will-public-schools-suffer-if-oklahomans-vote-to-stop-taxing-ideas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2012\/10\/11\/will-public-schools-suffer-if-oklahomans-vote-to-stop-taxing-ideas\/","title":{"rendered":"State Question 766: Will Public Schools Suffer if Oklahomans Vote to Stop &#8216;Taxing Ideas?&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_10553\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 300px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Oklahoma County Assessor Leonard Sullivan isn't sure how much Sonic's logo is worth, even though he'd be making that determination if the reach of the intangible property tax is expanded.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-10553\" title=\"Oklahoma County Assessor Leonard Sullivan\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-500x375.jpg 500w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-1920x1440.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-620x465.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-632x474.jpg 632w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0611-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Logan Layden \/ StateImpact Oklahoma<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Oklahoma County Assessor Leonard Sullivan isn&#39;t sure how much Sonic&#39;s logo is worth, even though he&#39;d be making that determination if the reach of the intangible property tax is expanded.<\/p>\n<\/div><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Oklahoma lawmakers are\u00a0scrambling\u00a0to fix the state&#8217;s tax code after a court decision created business uncertainty.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The outcome of a\u00a02009 ruling from the state Supreme Court could mean that Oklahoma businesses face a tax on all of their intangible personal property.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">This could mean taxes on business licenses, trade secrets and company logos \u2014 things with value beyond their tangible physical traits.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">On November 6, Oklahoma voters will decide on a potential expansion of the state\u2019s intangible property tax. A yes vote on SQ 766 would amend the state constitution and eliminate the tax all together.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><!--more--><\/span><\/p>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Supreme Court Sets the Stage<\/span><\/h3><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The state Supreme Court issued the decision that set this issue off in September 2009. Southwestern Bell sued the state, saying it should have been exempt from taxes on customer lists, databases, licensed software and trademarks, among other intangible property.<\/span><\/p><p>[module align=&#8221;left&#8221; width=&#8221;half&#8221; type=&#8221;pull-quote&#8221;]<\/p><p>&#8220;I don\u2019t have the expertise to tell you how much Sonic\u2019s name is worth, and I don\u2019t know anyone who has that knowledge.&#8221;<\/p>\n<h6>\u2014Oklahoma County Assessor Leonard Sullivan<\/h6><p>[\/module]<\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Not only that, it ruled <em>all <\/em>intangible property should be taxed and only the handful of items outlined in the state constitution should be exempt. Before the decision, only centrally assessed companies like utilities and airlines were liable for the tax. The court would have it apply to all businesses.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Oklahoma County Assessor Leonard Sullivan is one of the many people who think taxing <em>all <\/em>intangible property is a bad idea.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cFirst thing, I don\u2019t have the expertise to tell you how much Sonic\u2019s name is worth, and I don\u2019t know anyone who has that knowledge,\u201d Sullivan says. \u201cI think I have as much expertise as any assessor in the United States, and I wouldn\u2019t know how to put a value on Sonic\u2019s name and logo. So, it\u2019d been total chaos to begin with\u201d<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Sonic\u2019s Vice President of Tax, Charles Woods, says he doesn\u2019t know how much his company\u2019s identity is worth either.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cWell, that\u2019s a question that the counties would have to deal with. I think that illustrates the problem,\u201d Woods says.<\/span><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_10554\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 300px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Norman Public Schools Superintendent Joseph Siano says he doesn't see the urgent need for the passage of SQ 766.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-10554\" title=\"Norman Public Schools Superintendent Joseph Siano\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-500x375.jpg 500w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-1920x1440.jpg 1920w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-150x113.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-620x465.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-1440x1080.jpg 1440w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-1832x1374.jpg 1832w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-1376x1032.jpg 1376w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-1044x783.jpg 1044w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-632x474.jpg 632w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/IMG_0617-536x402.jpg 536w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Logan Layden \/ StateImpact Oklahoma<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Norman Public Schools Superintendent Joseph Siano says he doesn&#39;t see the urgent need for the passage of SQ 766.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<h3><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Who Benefits, Who Pays?<\/span><\/h3><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The <a href=\"http:\/\/www.yesonsq766.com\/\">State Chamber of Commerce is pushing for the passage<\/a> of State Question 766. Chief Operating Officer Chad Warmington calls a tax on intangible property a &#8220;tax on ideas,&#8221; and says the failure of SQ 766 would cause confusion.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cIf I\u2019m in one county and being levied an intangible tax, why am I not levied it the same way in another county, or why is it not levied at all,&#8221; he says. &#8220;And it just becomes \u2014 77 different taxing jurisdictions \u2014 which becomes a big problem for business.\u201d<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">The solution is simple,\u00a0Warmington says.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cWe just need to eliminate it altogether. Exempt it all in the constitution \u2014 because there are some specific things that are already exempt in the constitution,&#8221; he says. &#8220;This just says any intangibles are exempt.&#8221;<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That is a direct message. But Warmington\u2019s answer highlights the main problem with State Question 766: It exempts <em>all <\/em>intangible property.\u00a0Centrally assessed companies currently <em>are<\/em> paying taxes on intangible property. If 766 passes and those companies don\u2019t have to pay that tax, education\u00a0officials\u00a0say it could cost Oklahoma\u2019s schools about $30 million a year.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><\/p>\n<div class=\"related-content alignleft\">\n<h4 class=\"related-header\">Related<\/h4>\n<div class=\"links\">\n<h5>Posts<\/h5>\n<ul>\n<li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2012\/08\/20\/poll-oklahoma-voters-are-concerned-about-school-funding\/\">Poll: Oklahoma Voters Are Concerned About School Funding<\/a><\/li>\n<li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/2012\/10\/05\/why-oklahoma-has-more-jobs-than-qualified-workers\/\">Why Oklahoma Has More Jobs Than Qualified Workers<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/div>\n<div class=\"topics\">\n<h5>Topics<\/h5>\n<p class=\"topic\"><img class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2011\/10\/income-taxTN-60x60.jpg\" height=\"60\" width=\"60\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/topic\/income-tax\/\">Everything You Need to Know About Oklahoma\u2019s Income Tax<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div><p>\u201cFor the Norman public schools, 766 alone is a $650,000 impact on our budget,\u201d Norman Public Schools Superintendent Joseph Siano says.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">That figure could be seen as a small a drop in Norman Schools&#8217; $100 million annual budget, Siano admits. But because schools have faced years of budget cuts, the impact could be far greater, he says.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">And another constitutional measure voters will decide on in November, SQ 758, could\u00a0compound\u00a0the problem further by capping the future growth of ad valorem taxes that fund local schools, Siano says.\u00a0<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">&#8220;If you go back to the fact that since 2008 we\u2019ve been reduced by about $5 million,&#8221; Siano says. &#8220;That cumulative impact on the school district is significant.&#8221;<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">After the 2009 Supreme Court ruling, lawmakers replaced a potential tax on intangible property with a business activity fee of $25. Siano points out that at the end of the 2012 session, the legislature agreed to an extension of that tax if SQ 766 fails. So Siano doesn\u2019t see an urgent need for the change.<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">\u201cMy sense is there\u2019s not this big risk of this automatic tax weight that will be put on businesses,\u201d he says. \u201cBut I do know there\u2019s certainly a risk of significant \u2014 and I mean by significant about $32 million \u2014 of revenue being taken out of common education. And that would be an immediate type of impact.\u201d<\/span><\/p><p><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Siano says he doesn\u2019t necessary argue the pros and cons of taxing intangible property on the county level, but he does want to give the legislature more time to figure out how to replace those millions of dollars before they disappear.<\/span><\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<h4><a class=\"fancybox\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/topic\/vote-2012\/\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-10958\" title=\"Oklahoma Votes\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"120\" height=\"120\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-32x32.jpg 32w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-50x50.jpg 50w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-64x64.jpg 64w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-96x96.jpg 96w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote-128x128.jpg 128w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/files\/2012\/10\/ok-vote.jpg 250w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 120px) 100vw, 120px\" \/><\/a><\/h4>\n<h2>StateImpact\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/topic\/vote-2012\/ \">2012 Ballot Question Handbook<\/a><\/h2>\n<h4>Oklahoma&#8217;s economically important state and county ballot questions \u2014 explained.<\/h4>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Oklahoma lawmakers are\u00a0scrambling\u00a0to fix the state&#8217;s tax code after a court decision created business uncertainty.\u00a0The outcome of a\u00a02009 ruling from the state Supreme Court could mean that Oklahoma businesses face a tax on all of their intangible personal property.This could mean taxes on business licenses, trade secrets and company logos \u2014 things with value beyond [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":42,"featured_media":10553,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[492,14,16],"tags":[861,142,136,471,458,860,74],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10550"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/42"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=10550"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10550\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":12079,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/10550\/revisions\/12079"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/10553"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=10550"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=10550"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/oklahoma\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=10550"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}