{"id":3241,"date":"2011-11-14T14:28:18","date_gmt":"2011-11-14T19:28:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/?p=3241"},"modified":"2012-02-13T15:41:30","modified_gmt":"2012-02-13T20:41:30","slug":"qa-explaining-dartmouth%e2%80%99s-relatively-low-student-debt-load","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/2011\/11\/14\/qa-explaining-dartmouth%e2%80%99s-relatively-low-student-debt-load\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A: Explaining Dartmouth\u2019s (Relatively) Low Student Debt Load"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_3249\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 300px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Student debt is a growing concern across the country...but it's recent New Hampshire alumni who are carrying the heaviest loan burden on average\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/4879766154_c07e2050d8.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3249\" title=\"Student Bailout, Not Student Debt\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/4879766154_c07e2050d8-300x246.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"246\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/4879766154_c07e2050d8-300x246.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/4879766154_c07e2050d8-220x180.jpg 220w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/4879766154_c07e2050d8.jpg 500w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Jacob Anikulapo \/ Flickr<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Student debt is a growing concern across the country...but it&#39;s recent New Hampshire alumni who are carrying the heaviest loan burden on average<\/p><\/div>\n<p>New Hampshire alumni lead the pack when it comes to average student debt, according to a <a title=\"Student Debt and the Class of 2010\" href=\"http:\/\/projectonstudentdebt.org\/files\/pub\/classof2010.pdf\" target=\"_blank\">report<\/a> from the <a title=\"Project on Student Debt\" href=\"http:\/\/projectonstudentdebt.org\/\" target=\"_blank\">Project on Student Debt<\/a>. Nationally, the average Class of 2010 student graduated with $25,250 in loans, while New Hampshire alumni carried student debt loads of \u00a0$31,048, on average.<\/p>\n<p>So why does student debt matter for the state\u2019s economy? \u00a0At the risk of over-simplifying economic theory, if recent graduates are saddled with high debt levels, there are some things they might not be able to afford to do. For example, big purchases, like cars, could be out of the question. Increasingly, all over the country, <a title=\"2011 College Grads Moving Home In Record Numbers, Saddled With Historic Levels Of Student Loan Debt\" href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.com\/2011\/05\/13\/college-graduates-moving-home-debt_n_861849.html\" target=\"_blank\">more young people are living at home after graduation<\/a>. Also, as several economists have explained to us, people dealing with deep debt in general have a hard time saving money. When that happens on a large scale, the economy becomes more unstable.<\/p>\n<p>And, of course, there\u2019s the \u201cNew Hampshire Advantage.\u201d \u00a0For years now, one of the state\u2019s main selling points has been the fact that it\u2019s got a large pool of highly educated workers. \u00a0<a title=\"Education costlier, funds fewer, future cloudy\" href=\"http:\/\/www.nashuatelegraph.com\/news\/939998-196\/education-costlier-funds-fewer-future-cloudy.html\" target=\"_blank\">But as the cost of higher education increases, and young people are forced to forgo higher education or move out of state for cheaper options, the \u201cadvantage\u201d could disappear<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>So student debt in New Hampshire is high, but there are disparities within the state. <a title=\"University of New Hampshire\" href=\"http:\/\/unh.edu\" target=\"_blank\">University of New Hampshire<\/a> students attending the Durham campus graduated with the highest debt \u2014 an average of $32,323, <a title=\"Dartmouth College\" href=\"http:\/\/dartmouth.edu\" target=\"_blank\">Dartmouth<\/a> grads only carried less than $19,000 in loans.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>At the risk of mixing metaphors, what you\u2019ll often hear is, \u201cThat\u2019s an apples and oranges comparison.\u201d Private and public institutions are two very different animals.<\/p>\n<p>But even with that in mind, the Dartmouth figure still seems rather low. \u00a0In order to get behind relatively low student debt figure, we recently spoke with Maria Laskaris, the Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid at Dartmouth College.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Why is it that you think that the amount of debt your students are taking on is so much less than just about any other school in NH?<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3242\"  class=\"wp-caption module image left\" style=\"max-width: 200px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid Maria Laskaris helps StateImpact to understand why Dartmouth's student debt numbers are so low\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/Maria-Laskaris_B.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-3242\" title=\"Maria Laskaris, Dean of Admissions\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/Maria-Laskaris_B-300x450.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"200\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/Maria-Laskaris_B-300x450.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/Maria-Laskaris_B-620x930.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/Maria-Laskaris_B-220x330.jpg 220w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/11\/Maria-Laskaris_B.jpg 1280w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 200px) 100vw, 200px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Dartmouth College<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid Maria Laskaris helps StateImpact to understand why Dartmouth&#39;s student debt numbers are so low<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Dartmouth is committed to meeting the full demonstrated need of all of its students \u00a0through our strong, need-based financial program. \u00a0Let me unpack that a little bit&#8230;Just to\u2026to determine the family, or student, need, we start with the total cost of attendance. \u00a0And for Dartmouth this year, that\u2019s roughly $55,000&#8230;Students fill out the [financial aid] profile, we collect tax return information, we take a look at student and family income and assets, number in college&#8230;unusual expenses. \u00a0And from that, we determine an amount that we believe a family can reasonably contribute to a Dartmouth education. \u00a0So then, there\u2019s usually a gap for financial aid students, between the cost of attendance, and what we think the family can contribute. \u00a0And that gap is usually pretty large. \u00a0And what we do at Dartmouth is we cover 100% of that gap with our financial aid award. \u00a0Now some schools do what\u2019s known as \u201cgapping,\u201d which is they meet part of that difference, but not all of that difference. \u00a0And they basically leave it up to the students to figure out how they\u2019re going to come up with the rest of the money&#8230;Our awards at Dartmouth are comprised of two parts. \u00a0The first is what we call \u201cSelf Help,\u201d and the second is scholarship. \u00a0\u00a0So self-help has two pieces. \u00a0One is&#8230;a work study job. \u00a0Usually 10-12 hours a week. \u00a0The second is a loan&#8230; And at Dartmouth, we\u2019ve always tried to keep self help at a reasonable level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">We\u2019ve [also] done a couple more things I think is important to mention as well. \u00a0For students from families where the income is below $75,000, they do not receive any loans at all in their financial aid package. \u00a0So their financial aid award is the work study job and then the rest of the award is all scholarship. \u00a0For students whose family income are above $75,000, there is a modest amount of loan each year, that\u2019s part of the financial aid award, ranging from $2,500 to $5,500, depending on income. \u00a0And that\u2019s per year&#8230;The average scholarship for incoming class this year is about $38,000. \u00a0So it gives you the sense of that $55,000 cost.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>In terms of your ability to fund these kids is, how much do you have set aside for financial aid?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>We anticipate in this academic year, we\u2019ll be spending upwards of $77 million in scholarships that we will award to our students. \u00a0So this is all based on need, so there are not athletic or academic or merit scholarships of any type, but this is all need-based scholarships that we award.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Is that up or down or flat from last year?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\"><div class=\"related-content alignright\"><h4 class=\"related-header\">Related<\/h4><div class=\"links\"><h5>Posts<\/h5><ul><li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/2011\/10\/19\/new-hampshire-ranks-46th-in-nation-for-student-loan-defaults\/\">New Hampshire Ranks 46th In Nation For Student Loan Defaults<\/a><\/li><li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/2011\/11\/08\/student-debt-reaches-record-levels-and-nh-leads-the-pack\/\">Student Debt Reaches Record Levels\u2013And NH Leads The\u00a0Pack<\/a><\/li><li class=\"link\"><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/2011\/11\/10\/new-england-carries-some-of-the-countrys-heaviest-student-loan-debt\/\">New England Carries Some Of The Country\u2019s Heaviest Student Loan\u00a0Debt<\/a><\/li><\/ul><\/div><div class=\"topics\"><h5>Topics<\/h5><p class=\"topic\"><img class=\"alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/files\/2011\/07\/4373962579_ae5dac401e1-60x60.jpg\" height=\"60\" width=\"60\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/new-hampshire\/topic\/banking\/\">Less Bank For Your Buck: The Financial Industry<\/a><\/p><\/div><\/div><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: I<\/span>t has increased a little bit from last year. \u00a0Last year was probably in the neighborhood of $75 to $76 million, so it has grown this year. \u00a0And a couple of interesting things that we\u2019ve done, [in 2008] we enhanced our financial aid program, so that we moved to free tuition for all students with families with income below $75,000, and we\u2019d actually gone to a completely no-loan program for all of our financial aid recipients.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">Last year, in the wake of the downturn in the economy and the hit to the Dartmouth endowment, we had to put in a small amount of loan if the family income was above $75,000, so if you look at the students who graduated from Dartmouth last year&#8230;the Class of 2011&#8230;actually graduated with about $11,500 in debt. That\u2019s because when we enhanced our financial aid program in the winter of \u201908, we cut in half the amount of loan of our current students, and replaced that with scholarships. \u00a0So all students received some enhancement, not just the new students who were in the process of being admitted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">&#8230;So, because we were able to, at the time, sort of increase the amount of scholarship by removing the loans from our financial aid awards, we succeeded in further lower the debt that our students were taking on to graduate from Dartmouth.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Looking at this [Project on Student Debt report], about three-quarters of [UNH students] have loans&#8230;But looking at Dartmouth, I\u2019m seeing that 50% of your [students] don\u2019t have loans at all&#8230;Are you taking in that many kinds below the $75,000 mark, or is there that in combination with the fact that you\u2019ve got so many kids whose families are able to meet that need\u2026that basically these kids don\u2019t need any aid?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>For students who don\u2019t apply for financial aid, we really don\u2019t know how their families are financing the cost of education. We don\u2019t have data on that. \u00a0Because we have a need-blind financial process, we never know a student\u2019s or family\u2019s financial situation as we\u2019re making admissions decisions. So if a student never applies for financial aid, we don\u2019t have any good data on how they\u2019re planning to finance their cost of education. And I do know that there are certainly families at Dartmouth who have the resources to\u2026cover the cost of education, but I think there are also families who don\u2019t qualify for need-based financial aid, but are utilizing other resources.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>There\u2019s a perception as well that\u2026a lot of people are backing off from Ivy League schools [because of the recession]. How has Dartmouth\u2019s enrollment numbers over the past few years suffered under that effect at all?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Actually quite the contrary. \u00a0Our applicant pool has grown by 40 percent in the last four years. \u00a0And the number&#8230;of students\u2026has been fairly constant, between 1,100 and 1,015 or so&#8230; Quite honestly, you know, my admissions colleagues and I, we travel around the country, travel around the world, give presentations about Dartmouth, and all is coming along beautifully, and then you put up the slide that shows the total cost. \u00a0And you can see the reaction of students and families who are looking at that, and you can tell what they\u2019re thinking. There\u2019s just no way. \u00a0And so then, we have spent a lot of time really, helping to unpack for families just why, in actuality, a school like Dartmouth can actually be more affordable than your own, in-state institution, because of the strength of the need-based financial aid program.<\/p>\n<h4>Average Private Four-Year College And University Debt In New Hampshire<\/h4>\n<table>\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td>College*<\/td>\n<td>Ave Debt<\/td>\n<td>% Grads w\/Debt<\/td>\n<td>In-State Tuition\/Fees<\/td>\n<td>Total Cost Of Attendance<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Saint Anselm College<\/td>\n<td>$38,858<\/td>\n<td>82%<\/td>\n<td>$30,515<\/td>\n<td>$44,255<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Rivier College<\/td>\n<td>$36,462<\/td>\n<td>95%<\/td>\n<td>$23,965<\/td>\n<td>$36,319<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>New England College<\/td>\n<td>$36,203<\/td>\n<td>61%<\/td>\n<td>$27,450<\/td>\n<td>$39,126<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Thomas More College of Liberal Arts<\/td>\n<td>$28,194<\/td>\n<td>86%<\/td>\n<td>$14,500<\/td>\n<td>$25,200<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Dartmouth College<\/td>\n<td>$18,712<\/td>\n<td>51%<\/td>\n<td>$38,679<\/td>\n<td>$52,973<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p><em>*Several private institutions didn&#8217;t have their average student debt noted in the Project on Student Debt report because &#8220;some colleges did not report student debt data. Only colleges that granted bachelor&#8217;s degrees and reported the percentage of graduates with debt and average debt are included in the state figures.&#8221; Among the private New Hampshire schools that researchers didn&#8217;t have numbers for are: Chester College of new England, Colby-Sawyer College, Franklin Pierce University, Magdalen College, New Hampshire Institute of Art and Southern New Hampshire University.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>New Hampshire alumni lead the pack when it comes to average student debt, according to a report from the Project on Student Debt. Nationally, the average Class of 2010 student graduated with $25,250 in loans, while New Hampshire alumni carried student debt loads of \u00a0$31,048, on average. 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