{"id":3217,"date":"2011-12-29T12:00:16","date_gmt":"2011-12-29T19:00:16","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/?p=3217"},"modified":"2012-01-11T12:23:36","modified_gmt":"2012-01-11T19:23:36","slug":"rep-denney-idaho-could-increase-tax-revenue-by-decreasing-tax-rates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2011\/12\/29\/rep-denney-idaho-could-increase-tax-revenue-by-decreasing-tax-rates\/","title":{"rendered":"Rep. Denney: Idaho Could Increase Tax Revenue by Decreasing Tax Rates"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>The Idaho Legislature convenes January 9th.\u00a0 In advance of the session, we interviewed several legislative leaders and asked them about Idaho&#8217;s economy and what the state could be doing to boost growth and job creation.<\/em><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_3224\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 209px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2011\/12\/12-28-Lawerence-Denney.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-3224\" title=\"12-28 Lawerence Denney\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2011\/12\/12-28-Lawerence-Denney.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"209\" height=\"293\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Idaho Legislature \/ State of Idaho<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\"> <\/p><\/div>\n<p>Rep. Lawerence Denney (R-Midvale) is the speaker of the <a href=\"http:\/\/legislature.idaho.gov\/house\/house.htm\" target=\"_blank\">Idaho House of Representatives<\/a>.\u00a0 He has also served as Assistant Majority Leader and Majority Leader, and he was first elected to the legislature in 1990. Denney <a href=\"http:\/\/denneyforidaho.com\/issues.html\" target=\"_blank\">says<\/a> he believes in &#8220;as little government control in our business and personal lives as possible.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><em><\/em>Q: Looking ahead to the upcoming session, what are your priorities, and what would you say will be the major topics of discussion?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Of course, my priorities are to run the session efficiently and get through it as quickly as possible.\u00a0 I think the session will be as it has been in the last two or three years.\u00a0 The top issues are going to, in most cases, come down to money.\u00a0 Even though the economy has improved some, we\u2019re still down from the high point in revenue collections in 2008.\u00a0 So there are still some very challenging issues that involve the budget.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">I think one of the major issues that we will be discussing in this upcoming session is the insurance exchange idea, and I think that will take a considerable amount of time, whether or not we actually accept the federal money to set up the state-based insurance exchange.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Are you ready to advocate a particular position on that yourself?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I am not.\u00a0 You know, I have mixed feelings about it.\u00a0 I certainly want Idaho to be in charge of running the insurance exchange, but on the other hand I know that anytime the federal government gives us money, there are strings attached.\u00a0 So I have very mixed feelings on whether or not to accept that money.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Are you hearing from some on your side of the aisle who say, \u201cWe don\u2019t want the Affordable Care Act to go forward, therefore we should not accept this money because that\u2019s one more way to stop it in its tracks\u201d?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, there are a significant number that don\u2019t want to accept the federal money under any circumstances, but I don\u2019t know whether that\u2019s a majority or not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>This is something that has been discussed in the interim, and will continue to be &#8212; you think &#8212; one of the major discussions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>It has been discussed.\u00a0 And the Department of Insurance has been working diligently to get everything in place so that they can be prepared to present their case to us and so that we either accept or reject the federal grant to set up an insurance exchange.<\/p>\n<p>[legislator leg_id=IDL000057 align=right]<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>You mentioned the budget. The governor last year proposed a budget based on a fairly austere revenue projection.\u00a0 Is that what you expect to see this year?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I suspect that it will be very much the same as last year.\u00a0 The good news is I don\u2019t think we\u2019re going to have to make any additional cuts.\u00a0 The bad news is I don\u2019t think we\u2019re going to be able to restore a lot of budgets to where they were before this recession. \u00a0I think our focus is still going to be on many of the same things.\u00a0 We still have a fairly high unemployment rate, and so we\u2019re going to be trying to look at things for job creation.\u00a0 And we\u2019ve put on hold some of those things we were talking about before the recession started, such as the infrastructure, the transportation budget and the like.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>In other words, there are a lot of things that have been deferred in this interim period.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>That\u2019s right.\u00a0 And there\u2019s a pent-up demand out there.\u00a0 As the budget grows, it certainly is going to suck up any additional revenue that we have.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>We hear from Democrats who believe some of the cuts that have been made eventually will start to hurt the state more than funding some of those programs might.\u00a0 They say we might end up paying more for law enforcement, for example, if people are struggling more with mental health problems.\u00a0 Are you thinking of those issues of balance?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, you know, unfortunately, government doesn\u2019t plan ahead more than one budget cycle.\u00a0 I think it would be prudent if we could, but \u2013 you know, we tried to predict out there, but we\u2019re not very good at predicting what\u2019s coming down the road.\u00a0 I think we have to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>For those who might be hoping to see a reinstatement of funding to some of the programs that have been cut in recent years \u2013 would you say that\u2019s probably not going to happen in this upcoming session?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, you know I think everything will be looked at again, and I think we will take care of those urgent needs.\u00a0 But again, I don\u2019t think there\u2019s going to be enough revenue to bring anybody back to what they would consider whole.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Do you have a sense of what the urgent needs are, based on discussions with members of your party?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I think those urgent needs are what we saw last year, and the major issues are education, both K-12 and higher education, as well as Medicaid and that type of funding.\u00a0 I think those are the urgent areas that we have to look at.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>They\u2019re also the greatest expenses in the state.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>That\u2019s about 80-some percent of the budget, yes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>One of the things we keep hearing is that Idaho is looking at a \u201cnew normal.\u201d\u00a0 Some programs, some agencies will never be funded at the levels they were prior to the recession.\u00a0 Do you share that view, and do you have specific examples?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I don\u2019t have any specific examples, but there\u2019s some consolidation that\u2019s happened that I don\u2019t think will be undone.\u00a0 There were several commissions that were put together under one umbrella, and I think that will remain.\u00a0 I think there are efficiencies that have been found, and certainly we won\u2019t go back.\u00a0 I think there is probably a new normal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>You mentioned job creation, earlier.\u00a0 What do you think the legislature can do, at this point?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I think we have to look at everything we do that encourages business.\u00a0 Jobs are created by the private sector, not so much by government, but government can deter the private sector from investing in jobs.\u00a0 So I think we need to look at everything from tax structure to regulation and make sure that we do everything we can to encourage companies to invest.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>I know there\u2019s talk of lowering the corporate and individual income tax rates.\u00a0 Is that part of what you\u2019re referring to?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Yes, I think we need to make sure we are at least competitive with surrounding states, and many of them do have a lot lower income tax rate than we do, so \u2013 that\u2019s one of the things that we need to be looking at.\u00a0 I think we need to do what we can to make Idaho attractive to businesses. \u00a0And I\u2019d guess 60 to 70 percent of the businesses in Idaho are small businesses, and they pay their tax on an individual return.\u00a0 I think that means if you\u2019re going to be attractive to small business, you have to address the personal income tax as well as the corporate tax.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>You\u2019re saying you have to address both businesses as they function in the state.\u00a0 Is that accurate?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I think that\u2019s accurate.\u00a0 And our corporate tax is just a couple of tenths lower than the personal income tax, and there may be a move this session to bring those into line and maybe even reduce both.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>As an outsider to this process, it\u2019s surprising to hear talk of tax reductions in a session in which we\u2019re hearing there won&#8217;t be enough revenue to reinstate some amount of funding to programs and areas that have seen big cuts, or to address the costs of deferred maintenance, as you\u2019ve mentioned.\u00a0 How do you respond?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, actually, if you can encourage more business investment, you increase tax revenues by decreasing the rate.\u00a0 That\u2019s what we\u2019re certainly hoping, is that we can increase employment and increase business activity to the point that we are actually receiving more tax revenue than what it\u2019s costing us for the reduction.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Do you think the state could see the results quickly enough, in this environment?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, I think so.\u00a0 With income tax, there\u2019s always a lag.\u00a0 Probably about a year lag, so it is difficult to do.\u00a0 At the same time, if you can create that business activity, I think it\u2019s worthwhile.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>How about tax incentives?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>You know, the great thing about tax incentives is that if nobody takes advantage of those incentives, it doesn\u2019t cost us anything.\u00a0 If they do take advantage of them, we actually gain revenue.\u00a0 The problem I have with tax incentives is that sometimes they create winners and losers. \u00a0I don\u2019t want to put out incentives that make it harder for the businesses we have in Idaho in order to recruit businesses from elsewhere.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>What else should we be thinking about, in terms of job creation and the upcoming session?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>We are going to have rules coming from the Department of Lands on the new natural gas discoveries that we\u2019ve had in Idaho.\u00a0 I think that\u2019s an exciting possibility for us, and another revenue source, if it pans out.\u00a0 I know there are some very productive wells that have been drilled so far.\u00a0 There\u2019s a potential there for increased revenue without any additional tax burden on the citizens here.\u00a0 This is something that\u2019s new for all of us, because we\u2019ve never had oil or gas in Idaho.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><em>This interview has been edited and shortened.<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Idaho Legislature convenes January 9th.\u00a0 In advance of the session, we interviewed several legislative leaders and asked them about Idaho&#8217;s economy and what the state could be doing to boost growth and job creation. Rep. 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