{"id":17427,"date":"2013-05-14T06:35:38","date_gmt":"2013-05-14T12:35:38","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/?p=17427"},"modified":"2013-05-14T13:28:15","modified_gmt":"2013-05-14T19:28:15","slug":"bottom-rung-longtime-idaho-economist-stresses-education-and-healthcare-to-boost-wages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/14\/bottom-rung-longtime-idaho-economist-stresses-education-and-healthcare-to-boost-wages\/","title":{"rendered":"Bottom Rung: Longtime Idaho Economist Stresses Education And Healthcare To Boost Wages"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4025\"  class=\"wp-caption module image left\" style=\"max-width: 300px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Mike Ferguson, Director of the Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2012\/01\/Mike-Ferguson.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-4025\" title=\"Mike Ferguson\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2012\/01\/Mike-Ferguson-300x225.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"225\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2012\/01\/Mike-Ferguson-300x225.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2012\/01\/Mike-Ferguson-220x165.jpg 220w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2012\/01\/Mike-Ferguson-138x103.jpg 138w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2012\/01\/Mike-Ferguson.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Molly Messick \/ StateImpact Idaho<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mike Ferguson, Director of the Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Idaho has the <a title=\"Idaho Leads The Nation In Minimum Wage Workers\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/02\/27\/idaho-leads-nation-in-minimum-wage-workers\/\" target=\"_blank\">largest percentage of minimum wage jobs<\/a> in the country. That\u2019s been the jumping off point for <em>StateImpact Idaho\u2019s<\/em> series examining wages; we\u2019re calling it <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Living On Low Wages In Idaho\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/bottom-rung\/\" target=\"_blank\"><em>Bottom Rung<\/em><\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>We know that an <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Why An Influx Of Retirees To Idaho Is Creating More Low-Wage Jobs\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/08\/bottom-rung-why-an-influx-of-retirees-to-idaho-is-creating-more-low-wage-jobs\/\" target=\"_blank\">aging population<\/a> has had an effect on the kinds of jobs available, that a <a title=\"Bottom Rung: The Workforce Shift That\u2019s Costing Idaho Good-Paying Jobs\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/09\/bottom-rung-the-workforce-shift-thats-costing-idaho-good-paying-jobs\/\" target=\"_blank\">shrinking construction sector<\/a> has played a part, and that a decrease in education funding could also be partly to blame.<\/p>\n<p>To talk more about the trend, we recently sat down with economist and director of the Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy <a title=\"Meet Economist Mike Ferguson\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/mike-ferguson\/\" target=\"_blank\">Mike Ferguson<\/a>. We also planned to speak with Idaho Department of Commerce director Jeff Sayer, but Sayer canceled our conversation indefinitely.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: You\u2019ve got a bit of a chicken and egg situation here. Data from Census and IRS looking at migration patterns show the <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Migration By The Numbers\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/08\/bottom-rung-migration-by-the-numbers\/\" target=\"_blank\">younger educated workforce is leaving the state<\/a>, we\u2019ve got older <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Why An Influx Of Retirees To Idaho Is Creating More Low-Wage Jobs\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/08\/bottom-rung-why-an-influx-of-retirees-to-idaho-is-creating-more-low-wage-jobs\/\" target=\"_blank\">retirees moving in<\/a>. Which needs to come first the educated workforce in the state, or the businesses that are going to pay high wages?<\/strong><!--more--><br \/>\n<br \/>\nA: I think the state really needs to look at what it has under its control. The state can\u2019t wave a magic wand and bring a business here. I mean, it can try, but businesses are going to go with what makes sense for their shareholders. They have a fiduciary responsibility to do that.<\/p>\n<p>What the state has in its control is being the best in its class of enterprises. Basically, seeking to be the very best in terms of providing a productive and efficient public sector, I think would be the single most important economic development tool we could bring to the party. That means doing things like education, doing things like setting aside ideology and looking at the hard reality of a nation that has what could best be described as a sick health care system.We spend far more than other developed countries and we\u2019re the only developed country that doesn\u2019t cover everyone. The Affordable Care Act goes a long way toward fixing one of those problems.\u00a0 We need to avail ourselves of the opportunities that affords.<br \/>\n<div class=\"module aside right half\"><\/p>\n<h4>Bottom Rung: Living On Low Wages In Idaho<\/h4>\n<p>Part 1: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Two Idaho Workers Talk About Life On Low Wages\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/07\/bottom-rung-two-idaho-workers-talk-about-life-on-low-wages\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Two Idaho Workers Talk About Life On Low Wages <\/a><\/p>\n<p>Infographic: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Expenses Are Tough To Pay On Idaho\u2019s $7.25 Minimum Wage\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/07\/bottom-rung-living-on-minimum-wage-in-idaho\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Expenses Are Tough To Pay On Idaho&#8217;s $7.25 Minimum Wage<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Part 2: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Why An Influx Of Retirees To Idaho Is Creating More Low-Wage Jobs\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/08\/bottom-rung-why-an-influx-of-retirees-to-idaho-is-creating-more-low-wage-jobs\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Why An Influx Of Retirees To Idaho Is Creating More Low-Wage Jobs<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Charts: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Migration By The Numbers\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/08\/bottom-rung-migration-by-the-numbers\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Migration By The Numbers<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Part 3: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: The Workforce Shift That\u2019s Costing Idaho Good-Paying Jobs\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/09\/bottom-rung-the-workforce-shift-thats-costing-idaho-good-paying-jobs\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: The Workforce Shift That&#8217;s Costing Idaho Good-Paying Jobs<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Chart: <a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/09\/bottom-rung-construction-jobs-gained-and-lost-and-their-place-in-idahos-economy\/\">Bottom Rung: Construction Jobs Gained And Lost, And Their Place In Idaho\u2019s Economy<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Bottom Rung: Gov. Otter Touts Idaho\u2019s Low Wages To Attract Gun Companies\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/08\/bottom-rung-gov-otter-touts-idahos-low-wages-to-attract-gun-companies\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Gov. Otter Touts Idaho&#8217;s Low Wages To Attract Gun Companies<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Part 4: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Why Building A Strong Idaho Economy Takes Public Investment\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/10\/bottom-rung-why-building-a-strong-idaho-economy-takes-public-investment\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Why Building A Strong Idaho Economy Takes Public Investment<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Chart: <a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/10\/bottom-rung-idahos-expanding-call-center-industry\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Idaho\u2019s Expanding Call Center Industry<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Part 5: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Why One Idaho Border Business Chose Washington\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/13\/bottom-rung-why-one-idaho-border-business-chose-washington\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Why One Idaho Border Business Chose Washington<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Two-Way: Bottom Rung: Longtime Idaho Economist Stresses Education And Healthcare To Boost Wages<\/p>\n<p>Data: <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Idaho Has More Minimum Wage Workers Than 18 States\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/14\/bottom-rung-idaho-has-more-minimum-wage-workers-than-18-states\/\" target=\"_blank\">Bottom Rung: Idaho Has More Minimum Wage Workers Than 18 States<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Background: <a title=\"Making Money In Idaho, A Guide To Wages\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/wages\/\" target=\"_blank\">Making Money In Idaho, A Guide To Wages<\/a><\/p>\n<p><\/div><br \/>\n<strong>Q: The Commerce Department is focusing more on helping the businesses that are already here grow and expand, hire more people that way. When will we see the effects of those kinds of efforts, is that kind of a focus enough to start to boost wages, and entice young people to stay in Idaho?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: I\u2019ve met Jeff Sayer a couple of times, and I like Jeff.\u00a0 In a way I feel sorry because he\u2019s got a mission that\u2019s very difficult, given his limited portfolio of what he can do. It is important to have a commerce department doing what it does \u2013 in terms of interacting with business and taking back to some of the issues seen as barriers and so forth.<\/p>\n<p>The problem is, I don\u2019t think the problem lies in the Department of Commerce; the problem lies with much bigger policy issues. And he [Sayer] really has little control over that. Given this almost steady stream of negative economic performance indicators, it should be a wake-up call that we need to reassess how we\u2019re looking at these things, and what a responsible approach would be for solving our problems.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Q: President Obama wants to increase the minimum wage to $9 an hour, what would that do to Idaho?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>A: Well, let me give you an example with a neighboring state. We have 31,000 people on minimum wage, and our minimum wage is the federal $7.25. Neighboring Washington State which has the economy four times the size of Idaho\u2019s, also has the highest minimum wage in the nation, $9.19 and they have fewer people \u2013 on that four-times larger economy&#8211; on their minimum wage than we do. I\u2019m not sure that dealing with minimum wage in isolation fixes the problem. But, it\u2019s turned into a big of a bogey man. I\u2019m not sure that it is catastrophic by any means. It certainly can help people in that category who are not teenagers, and that\u2019s a great many people who are on minimum wage, in their quest to get by on a daily basis.<\/p>\n<p>We have a real problem \u2013 not only is it minimum wage, but the Department of Labor put out a report some time back, basically showing \u00a0we\u2019re at the bottom of the rung in terms of a great many occupations and the <a title=\"Making Money In Idaho, A Guide To Wages\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/wages\/\" target=\"_blank\">wages paid<\/a> in those occupations.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019re apparently in this race to the bottom and we\u2019re pretty darn close to winning. You can talk about <a title=\"Bottom Rung: Expenses Are Tough To Pay On Idaho\u2019s $7.25 Minimum Wage\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/05\/07\/bottom-rung-living-on-minimum-wage-in-idaho\/\" target=\"_blank\">cost of living being lower in Idaho<\/a>, and maybe it is in certain areas. Housing looked to be that way back in the 1990s, but not so much in the 2000s when we entered the housing boom. But gasoline prices, that\u2019s a national marketplace. Food prices we\u2019re going to feel the effects there \u2013 that\u2019s not going to really get us by in terms of justifying being at the low end of the economic rung.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Idaho has the largest percentage of minimum wage jobs in the country. That\u2019s been the jumping off point for StateImpact Idaho\u2019s series examining wages; we\u2019re calling it Bottom Rung. We know that an aging population has had an effect on the kinds of jobs available, that a shrinking construction sector has played a part, and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":40,"featured_media":4025,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[12],"tags":[230,156,85,143],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17427"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/40"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17427"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17427\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17515,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17427\/revisions\/17515"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/4025"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17427"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17427"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17427"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}