{"id":14996,"date":"2013-01-22T17:27:37","date_gmt":"2013-01-23T00:27:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/?p=14996"},"modified":"2013-01-22T19:09:01","modified_gmt":"2013-01-23T02:09:01","slug":"understanding-the-wage-gap-between-men-and-women-in-idahos-state-workforce","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/01\/22\/understanding-the-wage-gap-between-men-and-women-in-idahos-state-workforce\/","title":{"rendered":"Understanding The Wage Gap Between Men And Women In Idaho&#8217;s State Workforce"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_15005\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 298px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"An office assistant, balancing on a stepladder to reach the top drawer of a filing cabinet\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-15005\" title=\"'50s Clerical Worker\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary-298x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"298\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary-298x300.jpg 298w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary-620x623.jpg 620w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary-100x100.jpg 100w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/1-22-50s-Secretary-60x60.jpg 60w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 298px) 100vw, 298px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Carsten \/ Three Lions\/Getty Images<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">An office assistant, balancing on a stepladder to reach the top drawer of a filing cabinet<\/p><\/div>\n<p>This morning, <em>StateImpact<\/em> published <a title=\"The Gender Pay Gap In Idaho\u2019s State Workforce: Why Do Women Earn Less?\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/01\/22\/the-gender-pay-gap-in-idahos-state-workforce-why-do-women-earn-less\/\">a report<\/a> on the pay gap between men and women who work for the State of Idaho. Molly Messick joined Boise State Public Radio&#8217;s Morning Edition host Scott Graf to talk through the findings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>First off, tell us a little about why you decided to look into this issue of pay equity in Idaho state government.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Sure.\u00a0 Every so often, we see reports that compare the earnings of men and women nationally and by state.\u00a0 In those reports, Idaho often falls at the bottom of the list in terms of the amount female workers earn compared to male workers.\u00a0 In September, a report based on Census data showed that women working full-time in Idaho earn about 75 cents on the dollar earned by men working full-time.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">Based on a tip from another journalist here in the state, I decided to see what the available wage and demographic data might show us about the earnings of male and female state workers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>So what was your starting point, in terms of the data?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, I set out to get as much wage and demographic data for <em>full-time<\/em> state employees as possible.\u00a0 There were some stumbling blocks, but we were able to get salary and demographic data for more than 19,000 state workers, along with their years of experience.\u00a0 A basic analysis of that data shows us that there is a wage gap among state employees, and it\u2019s one that widens over time.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Explain what you mean by that.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>When women and men are first starting out working for the state, the earnings difference is really small.\u00a0 Women are earning about 95 cents for every dollar earned by men.\u00a0 That gap grows.\u00a0 By the time women and men have worked for the state for between 20 and 25 years, women are earning 81 cents on the dollar earned by men.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>\u00a0Can we draw any conclusions from that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I\u2019d be really cautious about doing that.\u00a0 We don\u2019t know why this gap exists.\u00a0 We just know that it does.\u00a0 But to try to put a finer point on it, I did decided to look at full-time classified employees. Those employees fall into the state\u2019s pay grade system, and they make up about 60 percent of the full-time workforce.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>What does that tell you?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, looking at workers within pay grades should give you a sense of whether those men and women are receiving equal pay for equal work.\u00a0 In other words, you\u2019re asking: Are women and men who are in jobs that are said to require similar levels of skill and responsibility earning about the same amount?\u00a0 Our analysis shows they are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">That\u2019s significant, because the equal pay for equal work is the legal standard under the Equal Pay Act.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">But there\u2019s something else that we can see in that data.\u00a0 It also shows that women are concentrated at the low end of the pay scale.\u00a0 On the other hand, men outnumber women two to one in the higher-paid pay grades.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">Another interesting thing I found in that part of that analysis is that one single job title, the title administrative assistant 1, is incredibly segregated by gender.\u00a0 According to the state Division of Human Resources, 444 people in the state have that job title, and 424 of them are women.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>I know you\u2019ve talked to the Division of Human Resources about your work.\u00a0 What did they have to say about your findings?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I met with Vicki Tokita.\u00a0 She\u2019s Administrator of the state Division of Human Resources.\u00a0 She says it\u2019s really the legal standard \u2013 that equal pay for equal work standard \u2013 that they keep an eye on.\u00a0 And they\u2019re confident that they meet that standard.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">I asked her about women being concentrated at the lower end of the pay scale, and she said she doesn\u2019t believe that\u2019s a symptom of any kind of glass ceiling faced by women.\u00a0 She believes, rather, it\u2019s a product of career and family choices.\u00a0 She also believes this gap in women\u2019s and men\u2019s earnings will break down as more women go into careers that have traditionally been male-dominated.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>As we wrap up, I wanted to follow up on something you mentioned earlier.\u00a0 You said you did hit some stumbling blocks in getting data.\u00a0 What kinds of stumbling blocks?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Well, even though you can look up any state employee by name and find out what they earn, there\u2019s a provision that says the state cannot release employees\u2019 demographic data.\u00a0 What that meant is that we couldn\u2019t get all of the information broken down by agency, for example.\u00a0 That\u2019s because some agencies are small enough that we would have been able to work backwards and figure out who these people are &#8212; connect the demographic data to specific people.\u00a0 That did impose some limits on our analysis.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>This morning, StateImpact published a report on the pay gap between men and women who work for the State of Idaho. Molly Messick joined Boise State Public Radio&#8217;s Morning Edition host Scott Graf to talk through the findings. 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