{"id":14503,"date":"2013-01-08T07:00:10","date_gmt":"2013-01-08T14:00:10","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/?p=14503"},"modified":"2013-01-08T07:32:36","modified_gmt":"2013-01-08T14:32:36","slug":"mike-ferguson-the-math-doesnt-work-on-gov-otters-plan-to-repeal-business-property-tax","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/01\/08\/mike-ferguson-the-math-doesnt-work-on-gov-otters-plan-to-repeal-business-property-tax\/","title":{"rendered":"Mike Ferguson: The Math Doesn&#8217;t Work On Gov. Otter&#8217;s Plan To Repeal Business Property Tax"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_14536\"  class=\"wp-caption module image center\" style=\"max-width: 619px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Gov. C.L. &quot;Butch&quot; Otter delivering his State of the State address, Jan. 7, 2013.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Otter_StatesmanJJ.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-full wp-image-14536\" title=\"Butch Otter \" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Otter_StatesmanJJ.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"619\" height=\"386\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Otter_StatesmanJJ.jpg 619w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Otter_StatesmanJJ-300x187.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 619px) 100vw, 619px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Joe JASZEWSKI \/ Idaho Statesman<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Gov. C.L. &quot;Butch&quot; Otter delivering his State of the State address, Jan. 7, 2013.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Governor C.L. &#8220;Butch&#8221; Otter\u2019s <a title=\"Gov. Otter\u2019s State Of The State Speech Sets His Agenda For Idaho Legislature\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2013\/01\/07\/gov-otters-state-of-the-state-speech-sets-his-agenda-for-idaho-legislature\/\" target=\"_blank\">State of the State speech yesterday<\/a> shed light on his agenda for the 2013 legislative session. Otter doesn\u2019t want to commit to <a title=\"It\u2019s Unanimous: Idaho Should Expand Medicaid Eligibility\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2012\/11\/09\/idaho-should-expand-medicaid-eligibility\/\" target=\"_blank\">expanding Medicaid eligibility<\/a> for low-income Idahoans, he didn\u2019t set a clear path on education reform.\u00a0 And he strongly advocated for getting rid of Idaho\u2019s <a title=\"Understanding Idaho\u2019s Personal Property Tax\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/personal-property-tax\/\" target=\"_blank\">business personal property tax<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy director <a title=\"Meet Economist Mike Ferguson\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/mike-ferguson\/\" target=\"_blank\">Mike Ferguson<\/a> says Gov. Otter&#8217;s budget proposal doesn&#8217;t put the state&#8217;s &#8220;priorities in the right place.&#8221; The governor&#8217;s suggested budget spends about $84 million more in fiscal year 2014 than in fiscal year 2013, bumping total state general fund spending to $2.78 billion. That&#8217;s a 3.1 percent increase. To get there, the Otter administration assumes Idaho&#8217;s revenue will grow 5.27 percent, growth the state hasn&#8217;t experienced since before the recession.<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>Otter&#8217;s budget proposal includes reducing unemployment insurance rates for businesses by $50 million, an additional $35 million to Idaho&#8217;s rainy day account (there is already $48 million headed there), an ending fund balance of $13 million, and eliminating Idaho&#8217;s <a title=\"Understanding Idaho\u2019s Personal Property Tax\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/personal-property-tax\/\" target=\"_blank\">business personal property tax<\/a>. That&#8217;s a $140 million hit to local governments. To make up for that lost revenue, Otter suggests giving local governments authority to levy local option taxes.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The simple answer,&#8221; says Mike Ferguson, &#8220;is the math doesn&#8217;t work.&#8221;<\/p>\n\n<div id=\"attachment_14537\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 261px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"Mike Ferguson directs the Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy. He is former chief economist for the state of Idaho.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Mike-Ferguson_KUNZ.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-14537\" title=\"Mike Ferguson_KUNZ\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Mike-Ferguson_KUNZ-261x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"261\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Mike-Ferguson_KUNZ-261x300.jpg 261w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/files\/2013\/01\/Mike-Ferguson_KUNZ.jpg 409w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 261px) 100vw, 261px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Aaron Kunz \/ Boise State Public Radio<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mike Ferguson directs the Idaho Center for Fiscal Policy. He is former chief economist for the state of Idaho.<\/p><\/div>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>The governor\u2019s budget for fiscal year 2014 calls for a 3.1 percent increase in state spending. He\u2019s counting on revenue growth of over 5 percent, a number the state hasn\u2019t hit or exceeded in the last few years. At the same time, he\u2019s advocating the state cut revenue for local governments by getting rid of Idaho\u2019s personal property tax \u2013 how can all of this add up?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>First of all you do start with the revenue outlook, and I give kudos to the governor for having a revenue forecast of 5.3, which as he mentioned at the Associated Taxpayers of Idaho meeting is down from 5.9. What the\u00a0Economic Outlook and Revenue Assessment Committee has been hearing is somewhat more pessimistic than that, so I will be surprised if the Legislature takes his revenue forecast for 2014. But again, I give him high marks for including that in his budget.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">The 3.1 percent spending growth is in part due to transferring money, money from the budget stabilization fund, leaving a $13 million ending fund balance.\u00a0 That in my mind is not putting priorities in the right place in terms of state spending that has been cut dramatically in the course of the Great Recession.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">One example, you know is near and dear to my heart, is education spending. We\u2019re actually losing ground with education spending. Even though overall state spending in the general fund is going up 3.1 percent, for education it\u2019s 2 percent. And for overall education funding, it\u2019s only going up 1.6 percent. That means we will slip further behind in terms of our effort level.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>If lawmakers decide to get rid of Idaho\u2019s business personal property tax, local governments could lose about $140 million every year. Gov. Otter has suggested the state spend $20 million to help with the transition \u2013 is this doable?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>The simple answer is the math doesn\u2019t work. One of the things that surprised me is when the governor recommended the possibility of local option taxes to replace the loss in property taxes. I\u2019ve looked at the numbers and the counties and the school districts and the cities, not so much cities, but counties and school districts rely heavily on the property tax, and the business personal property tax as part of the mix \u2013 they don\u2019t have high incomes.\u00a0 They don\u2019t have the capacity to have a local option sales tax or a local option income tax to make up the kind of losses we\u2019re talking about.\u00a0 So, it works great in Ada County, but not so great in Power, or Caribou, or any of the other counties that have a high proportion of business personal property taxes in the mix.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>And voters would have to decide if they want to tax themselves further?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Correct. At least that\u2019s how I understand it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>The governor wants to add $35 million to the state\u2019s budget stabilization fund, our rainy day fund. There is currently about $23 million in there, and another $25 million will get transferred in there by law. What\u2019s the benefit of beefing up this fund? Does Idaho have money to stash away right now?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>The whole idea of a rainy day fund is that you have one time money you have set aside to help support your budget needs when the revenue stream is deficient. When you\u2019ve got a recession or a downturn. My question would be, as we see a modest economic recovery underway, and revenue is coming back \u2013 what\u2019s more important, restoring the reserves that were depleted in the downturn or restoring the funding that was cut in the downturn. It\u2019s a matter of priorities. Reserves are important, but this may be a little bit premature.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>You still feel like there is damage left from budget cutting?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>Yes. And if you look at what happened in the Medicaid area, with <a title=\"House Votes Unanimously To Reverse Key Medicaid Cuts\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/jp\/house-votes-unanimously-to-reverse-key-medicaid-cuts\/\" target=\"_blank\">cuts that happened in the past, $35 million<\/a> \u2013 very little of that was restored.\u00a0 The school funding cuts that have been going on for quite a while now, there\u2019s an enormous need.\u00a0 I\u2019m hearing from school districts that they\u2019re on the verge of failure because of inadequate funding. That\u2019s in areas where they can\u2019t raise local property tax dollars. The ones that are able to are in a little bit better shape.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>Far from resolved is what happens to a pool of money sitting in Idaho\u2019s bank account from the repeal of the <a title=\"Idaho Voters Resoundingly Reject Propositions 1, 2 And 3\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/topic\/propositions-1-2-3\/\" target=\"_blank\">education laws voters rejected last year<\/a>. The governor\u2019s office says almost $38 million is in the account, the Department of Education says it\u2019s about $23 million, either way, there is no clear answer on how that will be spent. What is your takeaway on this?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>In the governor\u2019s budget, he designates $39 million that\u2019s set aside for this <a href=\"http:\/\/www.boisestatepublicradio.org\/post\/idaho-school-reform-group-starts-work-next-week\" target=\"_blank\">work group he\u2019s setting up<\/a>.\u00a0 My question would be how can school districts budget with money that is essentially allocated on this contingent basis.\u00a0 I\u2019m unconvinced this makes a whole lot of sense from the standpoint the school districts are facing. I come back to this, there is essentially a 1.6 percent increase in school funding overall, that means we\u2019re slipping further behind. Personal income growth is about 3 percent overall. That\u2019s a trend that doesn\u2019t bode well for the future of education in Idaho.\u00a0 Particularly when you factor in the possibility of moving the personal property tax off the rolls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"question\">Q: <\/span>The governor\u2019s speech also alluded to a revamping of Idaho\u2019s Medicaid system. He doesn\u2019t want to expand eligibility for Medicaid, which is a low-income insurance program funded by the state and the federal government. The <a title=\"It\u2019s Unanimous: Idaho Should Expand Medicaid Eligibility\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2012\/11\/09\/idaho-should-expand-medicaid-eligibility\/\" target=\"_blank\">work group he created to study expansion said to do it<\/a> \u2013 what do you make of his decision not to commit to an expansion?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\" title=\"answer\">A: <\/span>I have to admit that was one of the surprising things in the governor\u2019s budget and state of the state message. The <a title=\"It\u2019s Unanimous: Idaho Should Expand Medicaid Eligibility\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/idaho\/2012\/11\/09\/idaho-should-expand-medicaid-eligibility\/\" target=\"_blank\">work group<\/a> included some pretty conservative members of the Legislature. And the evidence was pretty compelling that it was in Idaho\u2019s interest to do the expansion from a cost saving standpoint, from providing health services, and from an economic development standpoint. That it will, essentially provide additional resources in the states\u2019 economy that will help provide jobs and economic opportunity.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Governor C.L. &#8220;Butch&#8221; Otter\u2019s State of the State speech yesterday shed light on his agenda for the 2013 legislative session. Otter doesn\u2019t want to commit to expanding Medicaid eligibility for low-income Idahoans, he didn\u2019t set a clear path on education reform.\u00a0 And he strongly advocated for getting rid of Idaho\u2019s business personal property tax. 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