{"id":24079,"date":"2015-11-02T02:00:02","date_gmt":"2015-11-02T07:00:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/?p=24079"},"modified":"2015-11-02T13:16:29","modified_gmt":"2015-11-02T18:16:29","slug":"why-president-obamas-call-for-less-testing-might-not-change-much","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/2015\/11\/02\/why-president-obamas-call-for-less-testing-might-not-change-much\/","title":{"rendered":"Why President Obama&#8217;s Call For Less Testing Might Not Change Much"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1271\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 203px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"President Barack Obama recently said he thinks there should be less testing in schools. He admits his administration is partly to blame for the problem.\" href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2011\/09\/95872391.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-1271\" alt=\"President Barack Obama recently said he thinks there should be less testing in schools. He admits his administration is partly to blame for the problem.\" src=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2011\/09\/95872391-300x443.jpg\" width=\"203\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2011\/09\/95872391-300x443.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2011\/09\/95872391-220x325.jpg 220w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2011\/09\/95872391.jpg 402w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 203px) 100vw, 203px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Pool \/ Getty News Images<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">President Barack Obama recently said he thinks there should be less testing in schools. He admits his administration is partly to blame for the problem.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Recently, President Barack Obama admitted he\u2019d made a mistake when it comes to public schools.<\/p>\n<p>Like most people with big news to share \u2013 <a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/WhiteHouse\/videos\/vb.63811549237\/10153858935674238\/?type=2&amp;theater\">he posted it on Facebook<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I also hear from parents who, rightly, worry about too much testing,\u201d Obama said in a video posted to the White House&#8217;s Facebook page.<b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p>For more than a decade, the <a href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/tag\/no-child-left-behind\/\">federal government has required schools to test students every year<\/a> and use those results to force changes in schools. \u00a0And since the late 1990s Florida has used tests the same way.<\/p>\n<p>The president now says he wants less testing in schools.<\/p>\n<p>To be clear, President Obama says he\u2019s worried schools are \u201cobsessing\u201d about testing.<\/p>\n<p>But he\u2019s not isn\u2019t saying that public schools should get rid of <a href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/tag\/florida-standards-assessments\/\">the Florida Standards Assessments and other annual exams<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cOur kids should only take tests that are worth taking,&#8221; Obama said in the video. &#8220;Tests that are high-quality, aimed at good instruction and make sure everybody\u2019s on track.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>The president is asking school districts to limit testing to two percent of class time \u2013 but that\u2019s still 26 hours out of the typical school year.<\/p>\n<p>The reason Obama and Florida lawmakers are so focused on testing is parents like Kim Werner from Miami. She\u2019s worried her daughter &#8212; who gets good grades &#8212; still may not graduate.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/www.npr.org\/sections\/ed\/2015\/06\/08\/409755106\/are-high-school-exit-exams-an-unnecessary-barrier-to-graduation\">Cause she\u2019s got to get a test score to get a high school standard diploma<\/a>,\u201d Werner said.<b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Werner was one of dozens of parents at a State Board of Education meeting in Orlando last week pleading for changes to the state\u2019s testing system.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/w.soundcloud.com\/player\/?url=https%3A\/\/api.soundcloud.com\/tracks\/231197200&amp;color=ff5500&amp;auto_play=false&amp;hide_related=false&amp;show_comments=true&amp;show_user=true&amp;show_reposts=false\" height=\"166\" width=\"100%\" frameborder=\"no\" scrolling=\"no\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>They\u2019ve organized online. And they encourage parents to keep their children out of testing \u2013 also known as opting out.<\/p>\n<p>State records show it\u2019s still just a small percentage of students sitting out tests. But the number is growing \u2013 and lawmakers are listening.<\/p>\n<p>Last year the Legislature changed their mind about requiring final exams for every class. They capped testing at five percent of class time.<\/p>\n<p>Their mantra was <a href=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/2015\/01\/12\/fewer-and-better-how-lawmakers-want-to-change-state-testing\/\">\u201cfewer and better\u201d tests<\/a>. This year, lawmakers are studying whether they can use one test for more than one purpose.<\/p>\n<p>Senate education chairman John Legg says a student who aces the AP English exam maybe shouldn\u2019t have to take the Florida Standards Assessments too.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cCan we use some alternative assessment in substitute of the FSA at a high school level?&#8221; he said.<b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p>Legg said he doesn\u2019t think this will work for middle and elementary school students \u2013 they\u2019ll probably still have to take the state test.<\/p>\n<p>But even people who say there\u2019s too much testing are not in favor of getting rid of the Florida Standards Assessments and other exams entirely. Like Miami-Dade Superintendent Alberto Carvalho.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cI think nobody here is advocating for the elimination of testing,&#8221; Carvalho said at a press conference in Washington, D.C. last week. &#8220;We can not go back to the years where the curtain of high-performing students hid pockets of underperforming kids.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Carvalho and Civil Rights groups say testing forces school districts to track just how much low-income or minority or disabled students are learning.<\/p>\n<p>Education Commissioner Pam Stewart and legislative leaders have said repeatedly that they believe in using test results to judge schools and teachers.<\/p>\n<p>But it\u2019s not so much the quantity of testing \u2013 two percent of class time, or five percent \u2013 but the consequence of those tests that draw so many complaints. That\u2019s the root of the \u201cobsession\u201d that President Obama is talking about.<\/p>\n<p>Cindy Hamilton is an Orlando parent and one of the leaders of the state\u2019s opt out movement. She ticked off all the decisions made using test scores: &#8220;teacher performance pay; school grades; pass; fail; remediation; retention and the denial of the diploma &#8212; all riding on one test score.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>She\u2019s said erasing those consequences is the real goal \u2013 all the changes so far are just \u201csmoke and mirrors.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>\u201cUntil they are willing to address what they do with the data and how they use it and remove the stakes,&#8221; she said, &#8220;really nothing\u2019s going to change.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Hamilton said the changes so far are politically easy. It\u2019ll be much harder to convince Florida leaders to stop using state test results to make decisions and grade schools.<\/p>\n<p>President Obama said he wants to help.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe\u2019re going to work with states, school districts teachers and parents to make sure we\u2019re not obsessing about testing,&#8221; he said in the Facebook video.<b><br \/>\n<\/b><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.usnews.com\/opinion\/knowledge-bank\/2015\/10\/26\/obamas-school-testing-talk-is-meaningless\">The president doesn\u2019t have much power over school districts<\/a>. If he wants schools to cut back on testing, the best he can do is ask nicely.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Recently, President Barack Obama admitted he\u2019d made a mistake when it comes to public schools. Like most people with big news to share \u2013 he posted it on Facebook. &#8220;I also hear from parents who, rightly, worry about too much testing,\u201d Obama said in a video posted to the White House&#8217;s Facebook page. 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