{"id":22819,"date":"2014-09-29T08:40:30","date_gmt":"2014-09-29T12:40:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/?p=22819"},"modified":"2014-09-29T08:40:30","modified_gmt":"2014-09-29T12:40:30","slug":"why-the-aclu-is-challenging-single-gender-classes-in-florida-schools","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/2014\/09\/29\/why-the-aclu-is-challenging-single-gender-classes-in-florida-schools\/","title":{"rendered":"Why The ACLU Is Challenging Single-Gender Classes In Florida Schools"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_22823\"  class=\"wp-caption module image right\" style=\"max-width: 300px;\"><a class=\"fancybox\" title=\"The ACLU is worried single-gender classes might reinforce stereotypes of the 1950s.\" href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2014\/09\/9-29-BoysSchool.jpg\" rel=\"\"><img decoding=\"async\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-22823\" alt=\"The ACLU is worried single-gender classes might reinforce stereotypes of the 1950s.\" src=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2014\/09\/9-29-BoysSchool-300x188.jpg\" width=\"300\" height=\"188\" srcset=\"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2014\/09\/9-29-BoysSchool-300x188.jpg 300w, https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/files\/2014\/09\/9-29-BoysSchool-620x389.jpg 620w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/a><p class=\"wp-media-credit\">Gardiner &amp; James Families \/ Wikimedia Commons<\/p><p class=\"wp-caption-text\">The ACLU is worried single-gender classes might reinforce stereotypes of the 1950s.<\/p><\/div>\n<p>The American Civil Liberties Union has filed federal complaints against school districts in <a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/2014\/09\/03\/aclu-challenges-single-gender-programs-in-three-more-counties\/\">Broward, Hernando, Hillsborough and Volusia counties<\/a> over the use of all-girls or all-boys classes. The ACLU wants the U.S. Department of Education\u2019s Office of Civil Rights to investigate the programs.<\/p>\n<p>StateImpact Florida\u2019s Gina Jordan spoke with Galen Sherwin, a senior staff attorney at the ACLU Women\u2019s Rights Project, about the complaints.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>Galen, what do the complaints say?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>Schools shouldn\u2019t be in the business of making crude judgments of children\u2019s educational needs based solely on whether they\u2019re a boy or a girl \u2013 that\u2019s the definition of sex discrimination.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">They\u2019re using different teaching methods, environments and even curricula.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><!--more--><\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>Well these programs are supposed to be voluntary and some people want this option, so if the schools offer these single-sex classes as an option and there\u2019s no measurable difference in the way these classes are taught, there\u2019s no evidence of gender stereotypes being used, would the ACLU be OK with that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>When a school is going to separate boys and girls on the basis of sex they have to have a very strong justification for doing so.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">And that\u2019s actually because of the way the Constitution has been interpreted to protect against sex discrimination. That protection exists in both the Constitution and in Title IX, which is the federal law that protects against sex discrimination in public schools.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">In these schools the main problem was, again, this theory of sex difference. The truth is every student learns differently in ways that are not determined by their sex.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>I spoke with <a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/2014\/01\/13\/why-florida-wants-to-expand-single-gender-classes\/\">Dr. Lisa Damour<\/a> earlier this year. She runs a center for research on girls in Ohio. And she says the research shows that if you separate the sexes, they\u2019re more apt to try new things. Like boys might show an interest in foreign languages and girls might be more interested in science. But she says it\u2019s not all about academic outcomes. What do you say to that?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>One of the complaints that we filed was one where there was some teacher training materials that are broadly in use. There are suggested lesson plans that differ for the boys and the girls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">And for a fraction lesson, the lesson plan suggests that the teacher give the girls a cooking lesson and ask the girls to figure out how much of each ingredient is needed to serve the class. And the boys do a science experiment to make slime that can be played with at the end of the lesson.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">Now, there are always going to be girls that are interested in slime and boys who are interested in cooking.<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\">So, you know, there are the exceptions to the rule. And our schools shouldn\u2019t be in the business of teaching to the existing sex stereotypes and, thus, reinforcing them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>So the ACLU is asking for a federal investigation by the OCR, the Office of Civil Rights. What do you hope will happen as a result?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>We\u2019ve asked the OCR to require the schools to return to a coeducational model, and in addition to set up training that comports with the laws against sex discrimination for all the teachers who have been trained to date in this notion of hard-wired sex difference between boys and girls.<\/p>\n<p class=\"question\"><span class=\"abbr\">Q: <\/span>What would it take to change your mind? Would it take a big study, that shows clear data that each sex performs better when separated?<\/p>\n<p class=\"answer\"><span class=\"abbr\">A: <\/span>All of the studies, <a href=\"http:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/2014\/05\/15\/explaining-the-research-on-single-gender-classes\/\">and in particular the studies that have sort of looked at the field of existing research<\/a> have reached the same conclusion. So I don\u2019t really think it\u2019s about changing my mind, or the ACLU\u2019s mind on this.\u00a0 I think that policy makers should be basing education data on the evidence. It\u2019s also about the law. The law is supposed to prevent exactly this type of sex discrimination \u2013 the treatment of boys and girls differently because they\u2019re boys and girls.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The American Civil Liberties Union has filed federal complaints against school districts in Broward, Hernando, Hillsborough and Volusia counties over the use of all-girls or all-boys classes. The ACLU wants the U.S. Department of Education\u2019s Office of Civil Rights to investigate the programs. StateImpact Florida\u2019s Gina Jordan spoke with Galen Sherwin, a senior staff attorney [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":55,"featured_media":22823,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":[],"categories":[18],"tags":[913,1047,1008,910],"acf":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22819"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/55"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22819"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22819\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":22824,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22819\/revisions\/22824"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/22823"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22819"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22819"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/stateimpact.npr.org\/florida\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22819"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}